Originally Posted by JonMA1
It's incredibly frustrating to understand the physics and not be able to pull this off. I just came in from unsuccessfully trying to draw ball with my 5 iron. I know what's happening at impact because of the ball flight, but it doesn't match what I'm trying to do and what I feel. Not a big deal yet as far as what's needed on the course, but it bugs the heck out of me that I'm incapable of drawing the ball.
With my driver this weekend, I closed my stance (rotated body alignment right of the target) and closed the clubface a bit (left of swing path). This resulted in a drastic reduction of my slice and even a couple of pull draws. It seemed like a bandaid fix to a bigger issue.
As suggested above. I believe there are bigger issues with my swing - perhaps the lack of fundamentals such as weight forward. flat left wrist at impact, proper swing plane, etc. I will be getting the 5SK discs in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, my swing mechanics will improve and this will no longer be an impossible task.
Been there, it's frustrating.
Sometimes I like to consider one part of my game to be where I want it, then try and polish up absolutely everything else in one long practice session, or pick a club or ball flight I can't remotely hit and decide to master it that day.
Well, that's not a patient strategy. No one has the ability to simply take on changing their whole game at once. Even though I am willing to practice until I'm spent just about every day, and have talent, and a pretty good knowledge of the swing, I got stuck on a wild goose chase over 10 different aspects of my game. Better to focus on one single thing at a time, even if that's just path or setup or face control. Sometimes I'll be working on one thing and end up subconsciously adding power or a trajectory change and mess up everything.
Working strictly on a drill for an in to out path can mean you still succeed if you whiff entirely, or don't hit it solid, or hit it off the range. It's easy to get frustrated, because you're not hitting good shots. But if you are really trying to ingrain that one aspect of your swing, you are still making progress. Results sometimes take years, like Tiger's swing change under Foley. He had all the resources, talent, and instruction in the world behind him and still played like a scrub for a good while. And he was already decent when he started. He wanted to get better and was willing to pick apart his game entirely.
Personally, drawing the ball is a combination of setup and my backswing for me. If I make a proper setup, even though it sometimes feels odd (when I'm having an off day and have no clue what I'm doing), I hit 70% of my shots acceptably solid just from that. If I don't set up properly, nothing else matters and it's just a question of how bad the miss is going to be. My downswing is not conscious, all I focus on is how aggressively I want to hit and where the little white ball is.
Mostly the setup problem I have is making sure I have enough space between myself and the ball. I've had to step through my shot ala Gary Player if I overdo this, but it seems like every time I do it's a good shot.
As for the backswing, the main mistake I make is getting my body, especially my hips, between my hands/arms and their spot at impact and end up getting stuck on the downswing. If everything's out of the way you can just deliver the club, if there's something in the way you need to reroute or change your timing to get through the shot. You want the most efficient path possible with extension for more leverage, and you'll maximize your speed and keep your alignments solid. It doesn't require much of an in to out path to achieve the desired effect.
So I'm not an instructor but there's a few things to think about. I can't guarantee if they'll work for you, but the 5SK program should help if you stick with it, as will posting your swing on this site.