Originally Posted by MS256
A few points:
Most of the traffic on a green is around the hole. After a few groups come through there are always footprint indentions close to the cup. If you drive up to the green after dark and shine headlights on the green you will wonder how you ever made a putt.
If the holes aren't changed at least twice a week the grass starts to grow over the edge of the hole and cause more lip outs.
When the plug is pulled it will very often raise the level of the ground around the hole making any putt from any direction that is dying at the hole break around the hole. When I change the holes I start the cup into the hole by hand but push it down to ground level with my foot, then turn my foot 90 degrees and push down very slightly again. That levels the ground around the top of the cup. Then I push the cup to the bottom of the hole.
I not only work there but since I also play there and putting is the best advantage I have in golf I'm very picky about how I set the cup. Some people are not so picky and are just in a hurry to get the pins set. I've even seen the replaced plug sticking up 1/2 inch above the level of the rest of the green or 1/2 inch low. Pretty sure the next guy that mowed those greens wasn't too thrilled.
Thanks MS256, this explains a lot!
After speaking with some members of the club, I realize now that this course is really at the bottom of the quality ladder and most serious golfers wouldn't even consider playing here (so I was told).
The holes are sometimes changed, but not often and certainly not twice a week. When they do change them, they just fill the old hole with sand! you can actually see the yellow sand-circles where the old holes used to be.
Originally Posted by Fourputt
It means that you are almost making those putts. Those deep lip outs are probably hit too fast, but since you also leave some short, it's obviously not a consistent problem. If you start playing them with less pace you will just leave more putts short, and that's a lot worse than lipping out. We can't possibly tell anything else about it sitting here at our computers.
I'll put it this way, would you rather that your misses were bad enough that the ball never even touched the lip? Lip outs are a part of golf. Ever watch a pro tournament? Phil lipped out several putts just in the final round at the US Open on Sunday - a couple of those drop and he wins the tournament. It happens. Accept the fact that you are probably hitting good putts, but not all of them are quite good enough. That just makes you a typical golfer.
Thanks Fourputt, I think you're right!
If I keep on practicing, I guess more balls will drop instead of lipping out.
It's just a little frustrating, seeing your ball go in, only to come out again! lol