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post #55 of 60
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Originally Posted by hacker101 View Post

For me no I would not turn either in to be honest with you. But I made myself clear on all outings out side of our playing group that the rules will be followed up front. If you don't know ask, if I don't know we will find out. I would call out my son and father in law right off and never let it get that far. But that is the relationship I have with them. As I said I don't have a dad other then my father in law and he already knows how I am about cheating and lying but he does not have an ego. He just wants to keep up, and my son plays his game for better or worse, but that is what I expect from an eagle scout.

As far tournament play if you are in a tournament and are cheating then you should be called out after all it is a gentleman's sport. And I agree you should not play in them if you are going to cheat.

I am with you Lihu it is all fun for me so if I am the worst player out there oh well I don't have an ego, I am there for fun and times with the guys.

 

But in the end the poster will need to decide what he can live with.


Agreed, our last outing was fun. I hope Oak Quarry will be as well. The pictures look awesome.

post #56 of 60
What is this planet where people mark their own cards? In competitive rounds? WTF?
You putt out and say "5" and that's it.
Your marker writes down both your scores and you do the same.
At the end you add them up and check - and after 9 too.
You discuss any errors and fix 'em up.
Then you sign them, swap them and hand them in.
Not hard to do guys.
And in the case of the OP, when the old man says "4" you just laugh and remind him of the extra 3 shots and write down a 7.
post #57 of 60
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Originally Posted by Shorty View Post

What is this planet where people mark their own cards? In competitive rounds? WTF?
You putt out and say "5" and that's it.
Your marker writes down both your scores and you do the same.
At the end you add them up and check - and after 9 too.
You discuss any errors and fix 'em up.
Then you sign them, swap them and hand them in.
Not hard to do guys.
And in the case of the OP, when the old man says "4" you just laugh and remind him of the extra 3 shots and write down a 7.

 

 

I have always liked your responses.

 

My son and I do that to each other, but there's no telling what reaction you might get from other people.

post #58 of 60
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Originally Posted by rehmwa View Post

 

Cargo shorts......but don't get people started on that...  (i'd also accept 1 or 2 "extra" balls in your pockets if in a mockery mood)

I'll keep it in mind - if anyone starts to 'pat down' the field sometime I'll know why now.

 

seems to be three camps here:

1 - keep a spare in case you lose your ball and your cart is over on the other side of the fairway - or even 20 feet away is still a delay

2 - keep a spare to slip into the cup when no one is looking

3 - actually #1, but now self conscious about it.....   ; )

 

I'm a 1 (pocket has ball, 5/6 tees, and my divot tool/ball marker - nothing else, absolutely, not even the receipt).  But I'm self conscious about pace of play and lost balls.  I'm also the guy with 2 dozen balls in the bag but only loses 2 or 3 at most during a round.  Sue me.

 

 

On topic:  how to deal with them?

 

1 - if they play for money......I don't play with them

2 - if they don't play for money.....encourage them, if it results in ready(er) golf

 

I guess my perspective on golf is different than some of you.  I rarely gamble and if I do, it's generally closest to the pin on a par-3 for the next beer.

 

I've got a few friends who I think occasionally forget a stroke or two, but nothing is riding on their scores, so it doesn't matter.  However, if we were to gamble, I am confident that not a single one of them would drop a ball without including the stroke and penalty and I am just as confident that my friends know I would do the same - we're honest enough and trust each other enough that there would be no issue about a spare ball in the pocket being used for cheating.

 

But it seems like some of you on-course gamblers don't trust your friends to this extent  or they don't trust you.  That's kind of sad.  Precautions or no, I wouldn't want to play for money with friends like that.  I guess announcing the marked balls when playing in a tournament with people you don't necessarily know makes sense and gives warning that you're being completely upfront.

 

A few balls in the pocket isn't an issue for me playing in shorts - I don't go for some tight bun-hugging Euro threads, so my shorts are loose enough and the pockets are large enough to carry 3 balls, 4 or so tees, a pencil, and a ball mark repair tool without me ever noticing it.  I guess I must have less sensitive thighs than some of you.  In cooler weather, I'll usually play in a pair of casual khakis, which are looser than jeans and have almost as much pocket room as shorts, although I might put spare balls in the pockets of a jacket, if I'm wearing one.

post #59 of 60

good note, WG.

 

and, if anyone were to actually ask me if I have balls in my pocket, I'd probably laugh so hard I'd spray my beer on them.
 

post #60 of 60

I say leave the old man alone.  It doesn't sound like you have the kind of relationship with him that allows you to call him out jokingly.  He knows he cheats and I'm sure he sleeps fine at night.  Having his son berate him about it won't change that.  Sometimes respect is more important than rules.  Some of you will say he is disrespecting the game and his competitors, which is true, and others will call him on it or probably already have.  There was a time your father let you win, or even cheat to win.  Let him do that now and enjoy your time with him.

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