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post #19 of 32
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Originally Posted by Hammer 4 View Post
 

As a side note: What I feel is, that I'm "bumping" my hip to the left, and my knees just sorta follow along. The trick for me was to keep my spine angle in check, i.e. spine is the same at impact as at address, or pretty close. this gets your weight to the left for righty players. The problem I had was I swung to hard, losing my balance due to my shoulders being to level, and losing my spine angle, there fore I couldn't maintain my balance. Also Key #1 plays a big roll in this, as does Key #2.

 

I found that Slowing my swing, i.e. tempo also helped a bunch, and helped me finish my shots much better, all this was due to mvmac's guidance. I hope this helps some what. 

 

I really appreciate it Greg. Your advice will help. Mike and Erik have helped me tremendously as well. 

 

I will focus on my spine angle the next time out. Yes, slowing down has helped with some other issues (this video is at around 75%). 

 

I will eventually get it. Even a bit more of a bump will be better than what I had last year. More weight on that left side at impact and a balanced finish has already helped my iron play. Any forward hip movement should help when I start work on keys 3, 4 and 5.

post #20 of 32

If you watch PGA golf, look at the pros swing, in particular notice how the real good ball strikers finish their shots. Their heads are tilted toward the ball. I try really hard to emulate that, but having a twisted and curved spine sure doesn't help.

 

JFYI, I went to the range today, in fact about an hour ago, and really concentrated on holding my spine angle, and finishing my shots sorta like the pros, and concentrated on Key's 1 and 2. I hit 130 balls, and 93 were good strikes. Since I have come back to playing, and had a lesson from Mike, I've never had so much fun at the range. Sorry for the gibberish.. 

post #21 of 32
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If you watch PGA golf, look at the pros swing, in particular notice how the real good ball strikers finish their shots. Their heads are tilted toward the ball. I try really hard to emulate that, but having a twisted and curved spine sure doesn't help.

 

JFYI, I went to the range today, in fact about an hour ago, and really concentrated on holding my spine angle, and finishing my shots sorta like the pros, and concentrated on Key's 1 and 2. I hit 130 balls, and 93 were good strikes. Since I have come back to playing, and had a lesson from Mike, I've never had so much fun at the range. Sorry for the gibberish.. 

93 out of 130 sounds good to me. 

 

This may be a bad idea, but I will occasionally take swings with my back foot off the ground at impact. If I can finish in balance, this tells me that my weight was forward at impact without lunging forward.

post #22 of 32
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Last video for a while - I promise.

 

I was hoping someone could answer the following questions:

 

1. Are the practice swings close to what I want as far as key#2?

2. Is the third swing on the right track? Brutal honesty would be appreciated.

post #23 of 32
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I took the mat outside this past weekend to see if the good contact I've been feeling hitting into the net was real. The results were less than what I'd hoped for but not terribly surprising. For the most part, better contact than last year but still no where near the consistency needed to hit greens if the season were to start today. In a way, it's better to know this now while I still have a lot winter left with which to work.

 

I've decided that the forward hip movement - while nowhere near where it should be - is better than it was. My weight forward at impact also feels much better. I'm still going to continue working on it along with more effort towards keeping my head steady as I swing through. Been looking at PGA player video and comparing them to mine.

 

I'm trying to nail down the amount of weight distribution from A1 to A4. It feels better with a bit more weight on the lead foot all the way back - no less than 50-50 anyway. It's still a work in progress.

 

Next up, Key#3. I've yet to take any down-the-line video. I can often "feel" the club moving on plane - whether it's a correct plane or not remains to be seen and I'm guessing that sort of self-analysis is beyond my ability anyway. Not to get too far ahead of myself, but when it feels on plane, it seems to have a very positive effect on lag, impact position and power. In any event, the swing path is next. I'll have to do some serious reading.

post #24 of 32

Jon, I'd work on Key #1 done properly for a bit. For example:

 

 

 

I'd practice looking like that in a mirror for a few weeks. Make some 20% swings like this:

  • Looking in a mirror, make a backswing.
  • Looking down, make a backswing 20% speed, check in the mirror.
  • Looking down, make a backswing 20% speed, pause for a split second, swing down 20% speed (it won't be 20% on the downswing, but don't worry about that).

 

Key #1 is "done properly" when it includes a proper pivot.

post #25 of 32
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Jon, I'd work on Key #1 done properly for a bit. For example:

 

 

 

I'd practice looking like that in a mirror for a few weeks. Make some 20% swings like this:

  • Looking in a mirror, make a backswing.
  • Looking down, make a backswing 20% speed, check in the mirror.
  • Looking down, make a backswing 20% speed, pause for a split second, swing down 20% speed (it won't be 20% on the downswing, but don't worry about that).

 

Key #1 is "done properly" when it includes a proper pivot.

 

Just to add a simple image to what Erik said.  Image you have a laser pointer sticking out of your belt.  Get the laser to keep moving back and to your right throughout the backswing.  If you had a camera taking video from down the line, point the laser at the camera.

post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

Jon, I'd work on Key #1 done properly for a bit. For example:

 

 

 

I'd practice looking like that in a mirror for a few weeks. Make some 20% swings like this:

  • Looking in a mirror, make a backswing.
  • Looking down, make a backswing 20% speed, check in the mirror.
  • Looking down, make a backswing 20% speed, pause for a split second, swing down 20% speed (it won't be 20% on the downswing, but don't worry about that).

 

Key #1 is "done properly" when it includes a proper pivot.

I will work on this exactly as suggested for a few weeks or until I can make the pivot and keep my head from moving laterally.

 

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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post
 

 

Just to add a simple image to what Erik said.  Image you have a laser pointer sticking out of your belt.  Get the laser to keep moving back and to your right throughout the backswing.  If you had a camera taking video from down the line, point the laser at the camera.

I can get to 90 degrees with the shoulders, but the hip turn - maybe just past 45.

 

Are you saying get as much hip rotation on the backswing as possible?

post #27 of 32
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I can get to 90 degrees with the shoulders, but the hip turn - maybe just past 45.

 

Are you saying get as much hip rotation on the backswing as possible?

 

Just going off the last video you posted, the shoulders aren't turning anywhere close to 90*.  So I would say feel like the hips turn a ton in order for them to get to 45*.  Ok to let them move slightly towards the target as well on the backswing.

post #28 of 32
I like the laser reference. imagine it in the end of the grip pointed at your belt buckle. lean over and move the clubhead out until its lined up.

Lag and plane are gonna have relations with your right wrist. can you get your right hand to throw a golf ball to the target while standing sideways at address?
post #29 of 32
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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post
 

 

Just going off the last video you posted, the shoulders aren't turning anywhere close to 90*.  So I would say feel like the hips turn a ton in order for them to get to 45*.  Ok to let them move slightly towards the target as well on the backswing.

Understood on the hip turn. Thanks.

 

As far as the video, I was trying to make half swings (the five "S"s of great practice) while working a specific key. But I'm sure you're right, on a full swing I'm probably not making as much of a turn as it feels.

post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by JonMA1 View Post
 

Understood on the hip turn. Thanks.

 

As far as the video, I was trying to make half swings (the five "S"s of great practice) while working a specific key. But I'm sure you're right, on a full swing I'm probably not making as much of a turn as it feels.

 

Fair enough on the half swings - I was pretty sure that was not your "full swing" - but at no point in Tiger's swing (for example) would he look quite like that.

 

I'd rather see you make full backswings right now at a reduced pace (slow/short go together in the 5 "S"s).

post #31 of 32
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Did the workout tonight and Mike was right about the full 90* turn - it is harder than I thought to get to where I start to see the back of my right shoulder in the mirror. As you both pointed out, without the hips rotating A LOT I don't have a prayer. It's not the same as putting a club across my chest, turning and getting the club shaft past 90.

 

By doing this slowly for several weeks, I'm hopeful it might help stretch things out in addition to it becoming more "natural". If I feel like the backswing is looking better, I'll increase speed from 20% to 25% and so on. I have a lot of winter left so I'd rather try and learn this the proper way.

 

 

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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

...at no point in Tiger's swing (for example) would he look quite like that.

 

 

No argument here. When compared side-by-side to a proper backswing, it's really funny looking. 

post #32 of 32
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Originally Posted by JonMA1 View Post
 

 

By doing this slowly for several weeks, I'm hopeful it might help stretch things out in addition to it becoming more "natural". If I feel like the backswing is looking better, I'll increase speed from 20% to 25% and so on. I have a lot of winter left so I'd rather try and learn this the proper way.

 

Correct that's the idea, keep doing it until it becomes your new "normal".  Good news is that you can just max out the feels and not worry about over doing it (at least not for a while).

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