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About 2-3 years ago I started reading all the posts from Iacas and really trying to implement the tips he gave.  I started hitting the ball better than ever before. My Irons all gained 10-15 yards, the trajectory became much more consistent, and best of all my driver stopped slicing and turned to a straight/baby draw flight with added distance

With my new found swing I shot some of the best scores of my life even breaking 80 at one point. Last year I kept the same swin thoughts and played much better consistent golf getting down to about a 9 handicap at one point.

Started this year hitting the ball dead straight, played some fantastic high 30/low 40 rounds. Everything felt great.... Until about 7 weeks ago

My driver out of no where started turning back to a big ole slice. We are talking 30-40 yards of turn.  My irons are still straight, but I can not keep my driver in play.  Over the last 7 weeks I have gone back and read all the old threads that helped me so much 2-3 years ago, I have tried to practice those things, I have read more recent stuff and tried to practice that and nothing is helping.  The more I try to fix it the worse my swing gets and now my mind is full of swing thoughts and just making contact with the ball seems like work. I will try to get a video up in the next few days to see if you guys can offer any help, but until then please make some offerings to the golf gods on my behalf and thanks for letting me rant

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Driver - c3 bullet 10.5 degree
Woods- c3 bullet 5 wood
Hybrids- 3dx 3 and 4Irons- 3dx 5-pwWedges- Purespin golf tour series gw,sw,lwPutter- antiguaBall - :taylormade: Burner TP

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Originally Posted by jlh1508

About 2-3 years ago I started reading all the posts from Iacas and really trying to implement the tips he gave.  I started hitting the ball better than ever before. My Irons all gained 10-15 yards, the trajectory became much more consistent, and best of all my driver stopped slicing and turned to a straight/baby draw flight with added distance

With my new found swing I shot some of the best scores of my life even breaking 80 at one point. Last year I kept the same swin thoughts and played much better consistent golf getting down to about a 9 handicap at one point.

Started this year hitting the ball dead straight, played some fantastic high 30/low 40 rounds. Everything felt great.... Until about 7 weeks ago

My driver out of no where started turning back to a big ole slice. We are talking 30-40 yards of turn.  My irons are still straight, but I can not keep my driver in play.  Over the last 7 weeks I have gone back and read all the old threads that helped me so much 2-3 years ago, I have tried to practice those things, I have read more recent stuff and tried to practice that and nothing is helping.  The more I try to fix it the worse my swing gets and now my mind is full of swing thoughts and just making contact with the ball seems like work. I will try to get a video up in the next few days to see if you guys can offer any help, but until then please make some offerings to the golf gods on my behalf and thanks for letting me rant

Are you hitting a pull-slice (outside-in path) or a push-slice (inside-out path). If you are still hitting your irons well, I would assume it's probably a set-up issue that's not allowing you to square the face.

Tyler Martin

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Originally Posted by geauxforbroke

Are you hitting a pull-slice (outside-in path) or a push-slice (inside-out path). If you are still hitting your irons well, I would assume it's probably a set-up issue that's not allowing you to square the face.

Its 75% a pull slice, 25% a straight slice

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Woods- c3 bullet 5 wood
Hybrids- 3dx 3 and 4Irons- 3dx 5-pwWedges- Purespin golf tour series gw,sw,lwPutter- antiguaBall - :taylormade: Burner TP

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Get you clubhead inside your hands in the downswing (when the clubshaft is parallel to the ground) and get it moving to the right at impact.

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Originally Posted by saevel25

Get you clubhead inside your hands in the downswing (when the clubshaft is parallel to the ground) and get it moving to the right at impact.

Piece of cake right?

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Hey just saying what needs to be done here :p

How you get there, i think its best for people to figure out. I can say all i want about what feels right, but we all know were that gets you here, "The Penalty Box" :p

Get a video camera, or mirror, take the club to the top of the backswing and work out what gets the club inside.

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Originally Posted by saevel25

Get you clubhead inside your hands in the downswing (when the clubshaft is parallel to the ground) and get it moving to the right at impact.

I know that is what I need to do, problem is that I have no idea how to make that happen.  Every swing thought or feel I have used int he past is not working this time

Spent an 1 1/2 hours at the range last night hitting 60 balls. 35 fantastic wedge and iron shots.

Then I pulled out the 5 wood and driver, top, top, shank, top, slice, top, slice, slice -  felt like I couldn't even make contact with the ball and when I did it was bending 40 yards right.

At this point I am ready to quit the game, its not fun anymore

In my bag

Driver - c3 bullet 10.5 degree
Woods- c3 bullet 5 wood
Hybrids- 3dx 3 and 4Irons- 3dx 5-pwWedges- Purespin golf tour series gw,sw,lwPutter- antiguaBall - :taylormade: Burner TP

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Originally Posted by jlh1508

I know that is what I need to do, problem is that I have no idea how to make that happen.  Every swing thought or feel I have used int he past is not working this time

Spent an 1 1/2 hours at the range last night hitting 60 balls. 35 fantastic wedge and iron shots.

Then I pulled out the 5 wood and driver, top, top, shank, top, slice, top, slice, slice -  felt like I couldn't even make contact with the ball and when I did it was bending 40 yards right.

At this point I am ready to quit the game, its not fun anymore

1) stop thinking about it, your getting too worked up

2) if your topping the ball, unless your ball position is to far forward, and i mean way up, like near the front toe, if not then your not getting your weight forward enough at impact. Since you are slicing and topping, i am going to guess you are loosing your wrist hinge in the downswing way to early. This action alone will bring the clubhead outside the ball.

My tip, go back to the basics, nail down the weight forward and steady head. Get those tops out of the system. Second, work on a flat left wrist, do slow movements really focus on not letting the left wrist break down to early.

Improvement wont happen over night. I know its frustrating. I just had a golf league night were things went to shit. I couldn't get anything to feel right on the course.

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
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What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

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Originally Posted by saevel25

1) stop thinking about it, your getting too worked up

2) if your topping the ball, unless your ball position is to far forward, and i mean way up, like near the front toe, if not then your not getting your weight forward enough at impact. Since you are slicing and topping, i am going to guess you are loosing your wrist hinge in the downswing way to early. This action alone will bring the clubhead outside the ball.

My tip, go back to the basics, nail down the weight forward and steady head. Get those tops out of the system. Second, work on a flat left wrist, do slow movements really focus on not letting the left wrist break down to early.

Improvement wont happen over night. I know its frustrating. I just had a golf league night were things went to shit. I couldn't get anything to feel right on the course.

That is the problem. That is exactly what I was working on. Did a bunch of 9 to 3 swings with irons working it out and hit great irons.  Then tried to do the same with woods and driver and its like an entirely different person is swinging.  I feel like at this point it is all mental

In my bag

Driver - c3 bullet 10.5 degree
Woods- c3 bullet 5 wood
Hybrids- 3dx 3 and 4Irons- 3dx 5-pwWedges- Purespin golf tour series gw,sw,lwPutter- antiguaBall - :taylormade: Burner TP

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get rid of all swing thoughts, ignore any advice you have received and just go play. Have a blank mind, You would be suprised how much better you will play. When you start getting into all this microanalysis that far too many people do you will never play well.

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Originally Posted by kw purp

get rid of all swing thoughts, ignore any advice you have received and just go play. Have a blank mind, You would be suprised how much better you will play. When you start getting into all this microanalysis that far too many people do you will never play well.

Yea bro just puff that purp and let the ball hit itself ...

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Originally Posted by TJBam

Yea bro just puff that purp and let the ball hit itself ...

you jest but what I said stands. I went through a year where I read all these different tips, took lessons, did all the stuff this guy is doing and I could barely break 90. Wasn't improving at all and was ready to say this game just isnt for me. The end of that year I just said screw it, I am ignoring all that and just playing how it comes naturally. Now my average score is 82.7 with a few 76's.

People get way too into analyzing their game and equipment.

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I hear ya buddy.  I was in the same position as the OP last year.   But instead of a slice I was trap hooking everything (almost lost my mind in the process).  I just said F it and cleared my mind and the rest followed.  My go to swing thought to settle me down is just to concentrate on a low and slow take away, then let the swing happen naturally.

This game will mind F you over and over if you let it.  I came to this conclusion once I started watching myself on video.  No matter what I was concentrating on, the swing always looked the same.  So I said to myself, "self, just go swing and stop thinking about 10 different things".   After practicing as much as I did, the muscle memory just takes over and its hard to change.

Once you become a low handcapper (12 and under) IMO making changes to your swing becomes harder and those changes don't seem to produce results.  The one exception I have had success with is getting my grip straight again.  I really think this was the root cause of my dark hooking period.

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It just gets worse and worse. Just shot the worst round I have shot in 4 years.  Couldn't hit a single club, not a single shot I would deem good

In my bag

Driver - c3 bullet 10.5 degree
Woods- c3 bullet 5 wood
Hybrids- 3dx 3 and 4Irons- 3dx 5-pwWedges- Purespin golf tour series gw,sw,lwPutter- antiguaBall - :taylormade: Burner TP

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My driver out of no where started turning back to a big ole slice. We are talking 30-40 yards of turn.  My irons are still straight, but I can not keep my driver in play... I have read more recent stuff and tried to practice that and nothing is helping.  The more I try to fix it the worse my swing gets and now my mind is full of swing thoughts and just making contact with the ball seems like work.

I'm there with ya, except it's every club except my putter. I hadn't been to the range in just a few days over a month until yesterday, but I swing a club and try to work on my swing every day. But, my work failed much to my dismay. My swing felt okay but not as usual, but I know it was s&$t because I got s$&t; results. I hate and love this damn game and have come to the conclusion that I must like to mentally torture myself because I play golf. Haha. But really :( Ironically, the only thing that can fix this is more range time. Damn you golf.

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  • 2 weeks later...

It all came back today and the solution was not thinking.

thanks to daycare being closed I took my daughter out on the course with me.  I stopped over thinking, I stopped worrying about score and just hit the ball and my swing returned.

In my bag

Driver - c3 bullet 10.5 degree
Woods- c3 bullet 5 wood
Hybrids- 3dx 3 and 4Irons- 3dx 5-pwWedges- Purespin golf tour series gw,sw,lwPutter- antiguaBall - :taylormade: Burner TP

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  • 3 weeks later...

I am at the same stage now. I can hit my irons well while sleeping. However as soon as I take my hybrids out, I start hooking. I have no idea what to do with it. Follow each step that should be taken but still end up hooking. May be I am gripping too hard. To top that, instructions flow from all over and I get confused even more.

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Originally Posted by jlh1508

It all came back today and the solution was not thinking.

thanks to daycare being closed I took my daughter out on the course with me.  I stopped over thinking, I stopped worrying about score and just hit the ball and my swing returned.

What was the score you shot when you stopped thinking and what was the "worst round in 4 years" score from the other day?

Reading this thread has me scared.  I don't want to get as good as you (11 handicap) and then all of a sudden lose my swing

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