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I CARRY a 60 degree wedge!

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

I think I'm going to change a couple of clubs in my bag.

I carry a 60* wedge but never use it. I'm thinking about pulling it and replacing it with a Ping 21* hybrid.

 

I would have a

4 iron

21*

19*

3 wood 15*

 

I think this will work better for me.

post #2 of 26

i don't disagree with your decision, but curious:

 

are you ditching the 60 degree because you can't hit it, or because you have other wedge(s) that serve the same purpose?

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
I just never use it. I use my 56* for everything close. I just started noticing that I never use the 60* and though I would use the 21* more often.
post #4 of 26

He said that he doesn't use it.  Why carry a club you don't use?  I don't carry one either.  For most players a 60° wedge is a specialty club, and if you don't use it often enough to make it worthwhile, then it just makes sense to drop it and make room for a more useful club.

 

I bought my first LW almost 25 years ago, and carried it, dropped it, bought another a couple years later, dropped it, and so on for 15 or 16 years.  Then I finally woke up to the fact that I just don't need one.  When I used it the results were poor to disastrous more often than not, even though practice was usually okay.  Now I don't have one, don't miss it, and I'm happy with that.

post #5 of 26

I prefer a 58° to a 60°. However, I am not sure that we can offer you any advice based upon your decision. If you don't use it, it's wasting space and you should drop it for something that you will use.

I know many guys who simply carry a 52° (GW, usually a part of their iron set) and a 56° SW. Your bag's make-up should compliment your playing style and conform to it, not change your playing style or hamper it.

post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by Spyder View Post

I prefer a 58° to a 60°. However, I am not sure that we can offer you any advice based upon your decision. If you don't use it, it's wasting space and you should drop it for something that you will use.

I know many guys who simply carry a 52° (GW, usually a part of their iron set) and a 56° SW. Your bag's make-up should compliment your playing style and conform to it, not change your playing style or hamper it.

 

Love that last sentence.  That should be every golfer's mantra when going club shopping.  Very well stated. c2_beer.gif

post #7 of 26

When I am playing my best: I like to carry a 60 degree on some courses. Those with extremely short fairway grass and lots of greenside bunkers with greens sloping away. Not usually for the bunker shots but for shots that have to carry bunkers and stop fast on a slope.

 

When I am playing anything short of my best: I like to leave my lob wedge in my bedroom closet where it belongs.

 

Since "short of my best" is the norm the old 60 degree gets a lot of closet time.

post #8 of 26

Wow. I couldn't imagine heading out for a round without my 60* Callaway. I have a pretty high handicap (18), but for some reason me and that wedge have always clicked. My driver, woods, mid-irons & putter are all a crap shoot. But the 60* is one club that I have total confidence in. If I'm anywhere inside of 50 yards of the green that wedge is in my hand.

post #9 of 26

60 degree wedge has its use.  If you know when to use them and are good at it, you can save strokes. I use it to get it out of deep bunker, for 20 - 40 yard flop shot, short green chips that needs to get over longer 1st/2nd cut/rough.   I can use SW instead of LW, too, but it would be less accurate.  

 

My ball striking sucks in comparison to my short game (wedge & putting plays).  Without my 5 wedges including LW, I don't think I can play at the current level (14 handicap).  So, give LW a long look.

post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by rkim291968 View Post

60 degree wedge has its use.  If you know when to use them and are good at it, you can save strokes. I use it to get it out of deep bunker, for 20 - 40 yard flop shot, short green chips that needs to get over longer 1st/2nd cut/rough.   I can use SW instead of LW, too, but it would be less accurate.  

 

My ball striking sucks in comparison to my short game (wedge & putting plays).  Without my 5 wedges including LW, I don't think I can play at the current level (14 handicap).  So, give LW a long look.


Agree.  The LW can be a powerful weapon but you need to use it wisely.  If its a questionable lie, its very easy to chunk it and go right under the ball.  Ive done that my fair share of times. LOL  I used to use the LW all the time but now its a club that I only use when Im on a fluffy lie and want to hit a flop shot or when Im in the fairway.  If the lie is at all questionable, I'll pull the SW and just not hit it as hard.

post #11 of 26

I'm with you, yea you can maybe flop it a tad higher, but I hit that shot just as effectively with a 56.  I hit it pretty far so it's much more useful for me to have a 2 iron hybrid or a 7 wood in the bag. It's really about what you're comfortable with though, some may like their lob more for a lot of shots but since you seem to stick with the 56 i'd say switch it up.

post #12 of 26

60 degrees is too much. you can just get a sandwedge and open the face and get the same results easily

post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by bkitt View Post

60 degrees is too much. you can just get a sandwedge and open the face and get the same results easily

Not too much. A 60 gets you more loft and depending in the shot, more back spin.

Opening the face presents accuracy issues and brings more bounce into the equation. I suspect the real problem, from looking at guys on the range and play, is a lack of getting the right fit as to sole grind/bounce, and improper technique
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond View Post


Not too much. A 60 gets you more loft and depending in the shot, more back spin.

Opening the face presents accuracy issues and brings more bounce into the equation. I suspect the real problem, from looking at guys on the range and play, is a lack of getting the right fit as to sole grind/bounce, and improper technique

 

I think we agree that 60 degrees is more loft than 56, but I know I've never used a 60 degree unless I needed the face wide open and I can hit the same shot with a 56.  We're not arguing that a lob wedge is more difficult to use, but that it's not useful enough (for us) to keep an extra wood or hybrid out of the bag.  Now if you have the ability that Phil does around then greens, then maybe that extra loft becomes more important. 

post #15 of 26

I think you should practice certain shots, and designate those clubs to those said shots.  Here's my wedges...

 

52* GW.... 115 to 105

54* SW.... 105 and less... Full, 3/4 and 1/2 swings.  And I use my SW for all chips/pitches around the green

58* LW..... Green side bunkers and flop shots/high pitches around the green

 

 

The reason I use my LW from the green side bunkers is that I'm not that good of a green side bunker player... I simply don't have a practice area with a green side bunker to work on this facet of my game.  So I typically try and 'chunk and run' to ensure I get it out of the bunker.  And use the LW so that it has less roll than the SW once the ball hits the green.

post #16 of 26

I love my lob.  Wouldn't trade it for anything.  But if you don't use it, you don't need it.

post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Nutter View Post

 

I think we agree that 60 degrees is more loft than 56, but I know I've never used a 60 degree unless I needed the face wide open and I can hit the same shot with a 56.  We're not arguing that a lob wedge is more difficult to use, but that it's not useful enough (for us) to keep an extra wood or hybrid out of the bag.  Now if you have the ability that Phil does around then greens, then maybe that extra loft becomes more important. 

Disagree. You don't need Phil's talent to lower your scores with a Lobber. Off the green, the 60 rolls a lot less than my 55 when chipping. I don't have to open it, and get more accuracy. I use both clubs - when I've think a pitch will require too much effort with the 60, I'll pitch with the 55.

 

I see too many guys get armsy with their wedges - they don't pivot, they stab with an unconnected armsy motion. And they wonder why the 60 doesn't work.

 

But too many guys think a LW is a LW is a LW. I would not use Phil's LW - too wide and not enough bounce for me. Most guys have no idea of a "grind," or bounce. So they blame it on the wedge when they need a wedgeducation.

post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond View Post

Disagree. You don't need Phil's talent to lower your scores with a Lobber. Off the green, the 60 rolls a lot less than my 55 when chipping. I don't have to open it, and get more accuracy. I use both clubs - when I've think a pitch will require too much effort with the 60, I'll pitch with the 55.

 

I see too many guys get armsy with their wedges - they don't pivot, they stab with an unconnected armsy motion. And they wonder why the 60 doesn't work.

 

But too many guys think a LW is a LW is a LW. I would not use Phil's LW - too wide and not enough bounce for me. Most guys have no idea of a "grind," or bounce. So they blame it on the wedge when they need a wedgeducation.

Mr. Squint comin through with the funnies!! c3_clap.gif

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