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post #37 of 48

I really don't get the cheating at golf thing. IMO the only person getting cheated is the cheater that misses out on how rewarding golf can be. I don't get all zen out there or anything but for me it's a perfect opportunity to work at a hobby where success and progress can be easily measured by score. Pretty sure I wouldn't have the desire to play if all I did was go out there and knock it around just to write down a make believe number four hours later. Seems pointless to me.

post #38 of 48
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Originally Posted by Maddog10 View Post
 

Assuming the OP's friend knows the rules that are in place, it's up to you as to whether it's worth bringing up or not. If you feel that they truly may not know the penalties associated with improving their lie and such, just enlighten them about it. However, I'm sure that they know you are supposed to play the ball as it lies.

 

I have a friend that does the same thing, and he knows the rules. I typically don't mention it unless he starts to brag about his score, and then I put him in his place. Amazing how big of a difference there can be in my 78 and his 78 though.

 

Nicely put. 

 

I will occasionally fluff my lie or take another off the tee, but only when I'm playing by myself or with my girlfriend. Any other time I play fair. People expect honest play from me and I expect the same from them.

post #39 of 48

Most casual golfers don't play by the rules......not even close.   If I am playing with somebody, I don't really care what they do so long as they have fun and keep up. 

 

Most of my "regular group" in the past 15 years play real golf.  I play with plenty of people taking liberties when pairing-up, but they don't brag about scores to me.  they probably know better...LOL

 

I never tell people my score, unless I am asked.  I do get asked sometimes when I play well.   I guess they are curious....LOL

post #40 of 48

Before the start of your next round together have a little talk with your friend about what rules your gonna play by.I think ignorance of the rules in general is part of the problem but if you can get him to agree not to take free drops and bumps then maybe you can allow a mulligan here or there, fair is playing by the same rules whatever they are.

post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by Dave2512 View Post
 

I really don't get the cheating at golf thing. IMO the only person getting cheated is the cheater that misses out on how rewarding golf can be.

 

Hmm, apparently you didn't hear what "they" say.

 

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You know what they say, "If you don't cheat in golf, you only cheat yourself."

 

Now I'm confused! ;-)

post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post
 

 

Hmm, apparently you didn't hear what "they" say.

 

 

Now I'm confused! ;-)

 

Ha, that's what one of my golfers told me one day as he cheated all day :roll:

post #43 of 48
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut View Post
 

Most casual golfers don't play by the rules......not even close.   If I am playing with somebody, I don't really care what they do so long as they have fun and keep up. 

This is very true in my experience.  I don't think I even learned most of the rules of golf until I found this site and I'm still figuring it all out.  Even when I'm playing with golfers better than me they will start a round sometimes by saying "everyone gets 1 mulligan per 9 holes"

post #44 of 48

I started playing as close to the rules as I know (I don't know every rule) because I wanted to know just where exactly my game was at.  I shoot low 90's and occasional high 80's following the rules as much as I know.  The rules I have trouble with are drops.  Such as where you drop when there is no designated drop zone.

post #45 of 48
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Originally Posted by Chris223 View Post
 

I started playing as close to the rules as I know (I don't know every rule) because I wanted to know just where exactly my game was at.  I shoot low 90's and occasional high 80's following the rules as much as I know.  The rules I have trouble with are drops.  Such as where you drop when there is no designated drop zone.

 

Agreed. I would love to know more but the rules seem pretty extensive.  If there was a brief summary of the most important or most used rules of golf I would like to see that.

post #46 of 48
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Originally Posted by Mr Smell Good View Post
 

 

Agreed. I would love to know more but the rules seem pretty extensive.  If there was a brief summary of the most important or most used rules of golf I would like to see that.

You can get the book for free https://www.usga.org/PublicationStore/PubStoreProductDetails.aspx?id=21474843679

 

The first or second chapter of the book starts with an overview of the most common rules that you will deal with and if I recall correctly, they use a slightly more casual language with references to the official sections.

 

(I'm a first-year golf and don't follow the rules _at all_ (I also don't keep score), but I got the rule book to start getting familiar with the rules, and start applying them as I play.)

post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by Chris223 View Post

I started playing as close to the rules as I know (I don't know every rule) because I wanted to know just where exactly my game was at.  I shoot low 90's and occasional high 80's following the rules as much as I know.  The rules I have trouble with are drops.  Such as where you drop when there is no designated drop zone.

Exactly. Got serious about the game a year ago and wanted a legit handicap. I believe somebody asked me what I shoot and I said something like mid nineties. Played by the rules and shot 108. I'm sure once I get men's clubs that fit me I'll easily break 100 next time out. Anyways, bought the rule book from USGA and keep it in my bag and for bathroom reading. Whenever the PGA officials quote a rule or I see a "rule-worthy" situation on tv I whip out the book and do a little research. Golf is more fun playing by the rules IMO, but I also want to play tournaments someday and it's useful knowledge.
post #48 of 48
If someone like this wanted to gamble, I would say "Only on par-3s - we'll play closest to the pin and the only shots that count are tee shots that hit the green." That pretty much eliminates any potential for cheating unless someone says "Say, is that a bald eagle" and points away at the sky, then kicks his ball closer to the hole when everyone is distracted. I think that only works on bad sitcoms, though.
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