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Originally Posted by mvmac

Thanks appreciate it.  Yes the amount of loft effects how much the face contributes to start line, again in that 85-75% range (except for putters and some wedge shots).  In figuring out how much to aim right, you basically just try to aim where you want the ball to start.  So let's say for a 7 iron shot, you aim the face 5 yards right of the flag to accommodate for a 3-5 yard draw.  If the ball starts where you want it to and over draws(left of the flag), then you had too much path, if it was a straight push, the path and face were about equal.

I recommend you take a look at this
http://thesandtrap.com/b/playing_tips/ball_flight_laws
is this assuming a club face square to the target

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Originally Posted by nick1998bunker

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is this assuming a club face square to the target

No please read what I wrote again, red part below.  The best players in the world consistently play with a club face that is NOT square to the target.  Guys that draw it have a face RIGHT of the target and guys that fade it have a face LEFT of the target.

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Originally Posted by mvmac

Thanks appreciate it.  Yes the amount of loft effects how much the face contributes to start line, again in that 85-75% range (except for putters and some wedge shots).  In figuring out how much to aim right, you basically just try to aim where you want the ball to start.  So let's say for a 7 iron shot, you aim the face 5 yards right of the flag to accommodate for a 3-5 yard draw.  If the ball starts where you want it to and over draws(left of the flag), then you had too much path, if it was a straight push, the path and face were about equal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvmac

No please read what I wrote again, red part below.  The best players in the world consistently play with a club face that is NOT square to the target.  Guys that draw it have a face RIGHT of the target and guys that fade it have a face LEFT of the target.

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Originally Posted by mvmac

Thanks appreciate it.  Yes the amount of loft effects how much the face contributes to start line, again in that 85-75% range (except for putters and some wedge shots).  In figuring out how much to aim right, you basically just try to aim where you want the ball to start.  So let's say for a 7 iron shot, you aim the face 5 yards right of the flag to accommodate for a 3-5 yard draw.  If the ball starts where you want it to and over draws(left of the flag), then you had too much path, if it was a straight push, the path and face were about equal

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yeah I meant are you talking 3 degrees right of the target or swing path but I looked some videos up and understand now, do you recommend I get an instructor with a trackman or simulator? My current coach who walks around the range and gives advice and I see like 2 times a year uses video camera and has a pretty old fashion style of the game. My other option is the long drive guy the beast fister who just opened up and has all of the equipment

I cant get into all this technical discuss. I have two simple swing thoughts.

When I hook the ball, I feel like Im swinging my arms radially.

When I draw the ball, I feel like Im rolling my wrist.

I know that's simple , but it KISS thoughts that I rely on at the course and its worked for me.

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Originally Posted by nick1998bunker

yeah I meant are you talking 3 degrees right of the target or swing path but I looked some videos up and understand now, do you recommend I get an instructor with a trackman or simulator?

Not necessarily.  I would recommend someone that can answer this question correctly: What mainly contributes to the initial start line of a golf shot?

And any instructors on this list

http://purestrike5sk.com/instructors.php

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Originally Posted by mvmac

Not necessarily.  I would recommend someone that can answer this question correctly: What mainly contributes to the initial start line of a golf shot?

And any instructors on this list

http://purestrike5sk.com/instructors.php
From what I've learned from my current instructor I don't think he has read into it very much.
I appreciate al,the help guys. But I have come to the conclusion I can not physically hit a draw. At best I hit it halfway straight. Very frustrating!
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Originally Posted by swalker

I appreciate al,the help guys. But I have come to the conclusion I can not physically hit a draw. At best I hit it halfway straight. Very frustrating!

I bet you can.  Try this drill, might just need to feel  or exaggerate some these pieces more