Originally Posted by Elvisliveson
Originally Posted by boogielicious
I tell people I am playing with that I keep an official handicap and will putt out. They seem fine with it. If others want to give putts to each other, I have no issue. I don't play match play very often.
The reaction in my group would be a resounding SO????? It's already been established in this thread that you don't have to hole everything out to maintain a legitimate official handicap.
You are only allowed 5 holes which have not been finished or otherwise not played under the Rules of Golf. You guys act like the handicap rules allow 18 gimmes per round - it just ain't so. Are you counting them as you go to make sure that you are playing a legitimate round?
I seriously doubt that any of us is so stupid as to stick doggedly to something when it is likely to delay play, but what this has become is a debate about gimme's in general, not the exceedingly rare case of hitting a bunker shot close. If you are so good that you hit a bunker blast into gimme range more than once every 5 rounds, then I applaud your expertise. Most of us casual players probably can't even remember the last time it happened - I know I can't. I'm betting that this is just about as rare as hitting your drive into a fairway divot hole, and just as much ado about nothing. By far the greatest percentage of our tap-in putts will be the second (most often), or third (hopefully not very often), putt.
Originally Posted by boil3rmak3r
Originally Posted by flopster
And besides could someone else rake the trap for this player so he could walk up and tap it in or someone else mark it for him?
Scenario: I knock my bunker shot 1/2" from the hole.
Per your recommendation, my 2 possible responses are:
1: "Hey, Joe, why don't you rake that bunker for me while I get my putter and tap that bad boy in." Or
2. "Hey, Joe, mark that one for me while I rake this trap.
I must play with jerks, because if I said #1, I'd probably get a big f-off thrown back to me. If I said #2, everyone would roll their eyes, mark my ball, putt out their own balls, and head to the next tee while I was replacing mine and putting out. On top of that, I'm sure I'd risk becoming "that guy" that no one wants to be grouped with.
Jsgolfers post (#108) seems spot on to me.
Personally, I don't have an issue with someone wanting to putt EVERYTHING out. But to say that all others are cheating... really?
I will putt out 99.9% of the time without slowing anyone down or pissing anyone off. I don't play with the type of person who would not be willing to rake a bunker while I continue play. In fact it's a pretty common practice with the guys I play with. When one of my friends stuffs a blast short of the green into the rough, or thins it over the green, I'll immediately offer to rake while he continues play. Same if he hits it inside of 2 feet and wants to finish it out himself (I feel the same about sandies as most guys feel about birdies - it's a nice feeling to hear them hit the bottom of the hole). It really doesn't take any longer for me to rake while he putts, then I get ready for my putt while one of the other guys is putting. If I ever got the sort of reaction you posted here, it would be the last time I ever played with that guy, because yes, he is a jerk.