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post #37 of 1006
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

I hate football.
Wait, what? Did I say "hate?" Sorry ... I meant I looove football!!!!!

Bolts 33, Eagles 30 ... Woohooooooo!!!!!
post #38 of 1006
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Originally Posted by newtogolf View Post

d2_doh.gif thanks for the correction - 6-10, guess I was hoping we'd gone to an 18 game season already.

Maybe you were thinking arena league? The AFL has an 18-game season, and the games pretty much don't interfere with watching golf (they tend to be evening games and most are streamed online, legally). It also doesn't overlap the NFL regular season or playoffs, if that's a concern for you.
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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

Why can't you just be a fan of your own team?  Why do you have to act like a 3 year old and piss on other teams?  It makes you look so childish.

This is something I don't get about team sports. I'm sure the vast majority of fans aren't like this, but it's what stands out about it. But man, some of the immature poor sportsmanship I see is so edgy... a2_wink.gif

Part of what I love about watching pro golf and less popular sports: the fandom I notice is more league-first, preferences second.
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Also, just so Steelers fans feel better, Maurkice Pouncey was injured by noted Patriot-killer Bernard Pollard, who has injured Tom Brady, Wes Welker, and Rob Gronkowski, and was the last person ever to tackle Aaron Hernandez. I can only advise that you guys lock up Roethlisberger and Le'Veon Bell somewhere the next time the Bengals roll into town.

Pollard also concussed Mr. Ridley in the same game when he tackled Aaron Hernandez, and is currently with the Titans (who the Steelers don't play again this regular season).
post #39 of 1006
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Originally Posted by Shindig View Post

Pollard also concussed Mr. Ridley in the same game when he tackled Aaron Hernandez, and is currently with the Titans (who the Steelers don't play again this regular season).

You're right on both counts! Not sure why I thought Bengals.
post #40 of 1006
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post


Wait, what? Did I say "hate?" Sorry ... I meant I looove football!!!!!

Bolts 33, Eagles 30 ... Woohooooooo!!!!!

 

I hope the Bolts rebound this year.  When divisions have competition, it is way more fun to watch.  I didn't get to see this game, but hopefully it was entertaining.

post #41 of 1006

Hang on, Lions!!!

post #42 of 1006
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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

Why can't you just be a fan of your own team?  Why do you have to act like a 3 year old and piss on other teams?  It makes you look so childish.

You are aware that super bowl champ shirt I am referencing was actually won by the Patriots after some nefarious activities involving Bill Bellicheat correct.

While I am a fan of the league as a whole I will never respect the Patriots.
post #43 of 1006
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Originally Posted by big stoke View Post

You are aware that super bowl champ shirt I am referencing was actually won by the Patriots after some nefarious activities involving Bill Bellicheat correct.

While I am a fan of the league as a whole I will never respect the Patriots.

Poor sportsmanship (and oh-so-edgy name calling!) aside, you're demonstrably wrong. According to Wikipedia, in 2000 (the year you listed for having the SB shirt), the Patriots went 5-11 and didn't qualify for the playoffs. That's an amazingly odd definition you have for winning the Super Bowl.

Now, in calendar year 2000, the Rams (who I assume, from context, are the team you prefer) did win a Super Bowl - over the Titans. However, during that season, Belichick was (again, according to Wikipedia) an assistant coach with the New York Jets - a team that also wasn't in the Super Bowl.
post #44 of 1006
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Originally Posted by Shindig View Post

Poor sportsmanship (and oh-so-edgy name calling!) aside, you're demonstrably wrong. According to Wikipedia, in 2000 (the year you listed for having the SB shirt), the Patriots went 5-11 and didn't qualify for the playoffs. That's an amazingly odd definition you have for winning the Super Bowl.

Now, in calendar year 2000, the Rams (who I assume, from context, are the team you prefer) did win a Super Bowl - over the Titans. However, during that season, Belichick was (again, according to Wikipedia) an assistant coach with the New York Jets - a team that also wasn't in the Super Bowl.

Quite correct. I would assume with your amazing prowess to research facts you could have recognized the mistake on my part and concluded that I was referring to the 2001 super bowl.

That being said, being a fan of a sports team generally involves dislike for other teams in the league.

I'll try to stick your standards of fandom going forward.

Go Rams but I also hope everyone else's team can be successful as well.
post #45 of 1006
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I disagree, I could see the Bills pull off a few more wins against the Jets, Dolphins, and maybe Cleveland or Baltimore, and get to 7 or 8 wins. I think EJ Manuel is the real deal.

Also, just so Steelers fans feel better, Maurkice Pouncey was injured by noted Patriot-killer Bernard Pollard, who has injured Tom Brady, Wes Welker, and Rob Gronkowski, and was the last person ever to tackle Aaron Hernandez. I can only advise that you guys lock up Roethlisberger and Le'Veon Bell somewhere the next time the Bengals roll into town.

After being at the game yesterday and seeing Manuel lead us down the field 80 yards in 90 seconds w no timeouts for a touchdown my confidence about 7 or 8 wins is very high. Defense looks vastly improved as well. We are in a very weak division aside from New England who is not themselves right now. Jets twice, Dolphins twice, Browns, Jacksonville, Tampa, KC Chiefs and maybe we steal one against one of the elite teams we play. Lot of winnable games there.

post #46 of 1006
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Originally Posted by kw purp View Post
 

After being at the game yesterday and seeing Manuel lead us down the field 80 yards in 90 seconds w no timeouts for a touchdown my confidence about 7 or 8 wins is very high. Defense looks vastly improved as well. We are in a very weak division aside from New England who is not themselves right now. Jets twice, Dolphins twice, Browns, Jacksonville, Tampa, KC Chiefs and maybe we steal one against one of the elite teams we play. Lot of winnable games there.

 

The Browns are a gift to every team they play this season.

 

Unbelievable run defense, top 3 DB in the league, 0 offense, worst opposite DB in the league. Not a good combination...

post #47 of 1006
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Originally Posted by kw purp View Post
 

Bills fan here. Feel cautiously optimistic about the team. Could see a 7-9 maybe even 8 and 8 season this year. Like what I am seeing from EJ Manuel.

 

Go bills!  I think 7-9 or 8-8 sounds about right.  

 

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Looking at the Bills schedule they will be lucky to go 6-12, but I doubt they win more than 5.

 

1    
Sep 08 NE 23 @ BUF 21 - Loss  
2 Sep 15 CAR @ BUF - win  
3 Sep 22 BUF @ NYJ - Possible Win  
4 Sep 29 BAL @ BUF - Loss  
5 Oct 03 BUF @ CLE - win  
6 Oct 13 CIN @ BUF - Loss  
7 Oct 20 BUF @ MIA - Possible Win  
8 Oct 27 BUF @ NO - Loss  
9 Nov 03 KC @ BUF - Possible Win  
10 Nov 10 BUF @ PIT - Loss  
11 Nov 17 NYJ @ BUF - Win  
12 Bye  
13 Dec 01 ATL @ BUF - Loss  
14 Dec 08 BUF @ TB - Win  
15 Dec 15 BUF @ JAC - Win  
16 Dec 22 MIA @ BUF - Possible Win  
17 Dec 29 BUF @ NE - Loss unless NE clichés and benches starters

 

I'd say 7-9.  The Miami games could go either way, and I think they've got a good shot at sweeping the Jets.  9-7 would require them to win every game against the bottom half of their opponents, without blowing a single game.  

 

They're really a talented team.  Their OL was one of the best last year, they've got a great RB duo and a young, unproven, but talented WR corps.  The D-Line is stacked, probably top 2 in the NFL.  If McKelvin keeps up his good play and you add Gilmore and Byrd back into the mix, they DB's could be pretty good, too.  Their biggest hurdle is experience and learning to close out games.  Yesterday was great in that sense, but against the Pats they didn't run out the clock and let Brady have on of his patented 40 yard drives into FG range with a minute left.  

 

 

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Originally Posted by big stoke View Post

Safe to say the patriots and Belicheat are going to be a non factor this year. As shitty as that Pats Jets game was, seeing Brady cry, bitch, and moan on the sidelines was worth watching the rest of the garbage. Brady is in for a long season

 

They're definitely in trouble.  I just dont think they have the talent on offense to put up the numbers that they're used to.

post #48 of 1006
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Go bills!  I think 7-9 or 8-8 sounds about right.

 

 

I'd say 7-9.  The Miami games could go either way, and I think they've got a good shot at sweeping the Jets.  9-7 would require them to win every game against the bottom half of their opponents, without blowing a single game.

 

They're really a talented team.  Their OL was one of the best last year, they've got a great RB duo and a young, unproven, but talented WR corps.  The D-Line is stacked, probably top 2 in the NFL.  If McKelvin keeps up his good play and you add Gilmore and Byrd back into the mix, they DB's could be pretty good, too.  Their biggest hurdle is experience and learning to close out games.  Yesterday was great in that sense, but against the Pats they didn't run out the clock and let Brady have on of his patented 40 yard drives into FG range with a minute left.

 

 

 

They're definitely in trouble.  I just dont think they have the talent on offense to put up the numbers that they're used to.

 

The defense looks a thousand percent better than last year and that's as you said with missing our 2 best db's. Bringing over the Jets DC seems to have made a big impact.  The back breaking penalties have GOT to be corrected though. Its getting obsurd.

 

All in all I have not felt this excited about the bills in my entire time watching them. (I'm 23, so wasn't old enough to enjoy the Kelly run)

post #49 of 1006

I said it all last year and I have been proven right.

 

rg3 was nothing more than a fad.

 

the redskins qb is bob griffin and absolutely nothing more.

post #50 of 1006
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Originally Posted by meenman View Post
 

I said it all last year and I have been proven right.

 

rg3 was nothing more than a fad.

 

the redskins qb is bob griffin and absolutely nothing more.

 

I couldn't disagree more.  You might have missed it, but he's coming off major knee surgery and didnt play in a single preseason game.  He hasn't gotten back to running the ball yet but he will when he and the coaches get more comfortable with the knee.  In the meantime, he's thrown for 650 yards, 5 TDs, and 3 int in 2 games.  His QB rating is 89.6.  Fad?  Tom Brady has 473 yards 3 TDs and 1 INT, QB rating of 74.1.  

 

I think its a foregone conclusion that the future QB will rely more on more on his legs.  There are so many guys in the league now that can throw as well as the best pocket passers AND run, too.  Throw in all these rule changes to protect the offensive players from big hits and late hits and there are few and fewer reasons for the QB NOT to run the ball.

post #51 of 1006
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Originally Posted by dsc123 View Post
 

 

I couldn't disagree more.  You might have missed it, but he's coming off major knee surgery and didnt play in a single preseason game.  He hasn't gotten back to running the ball yet but he will when he and the coaches get more comfortable with the knee.  In the meantime, he's thrown for 650 yards, 5 TDs, and 3 int in 2 games.  His QB rating is 89.6.  Fad?  Tom Brady has 473 yards 3 TDs and 1 INT, QB rating of 74.1.  

 

I think its a foregone conclusion that the future QB will rely more on more on his legs.  There are so many guys in the league now that can throw as well as the best pocket passers AND run, too.  Throw in all these rule changes to protect the offensive players from big hits and late hits and there are few and fewer reasons for the QB NOT to run the ball.

 

Dont get too hyped up on the passing stats - every stiff QB racks up numbers when down by 30 and facing a prevent defense. How do think Stafford puts up pro bowl numbers on  a 2-14 team?

 
the legend of bob griffin is dead before it starts.
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Again, I ask: when's the last truly successful "hybrid" or "running" QB?


Steve Young?

 

Running QBs get hit a lot and tend to have short bursts of great years with a lot of blah years and injuries.

post #53 of 1006
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Originally Posted by kw purp View Post
 

All in all I have not felt this excited about the bills in my entire time watching them. (I'm 23, so wasn't old enough to enjoy the Kelly run)

 

Then you know better than to get excited, don't you?  I mean during week one, did you ever doubt that Brady would march down the field whenever it became necessary?  

 

I'm 29, and I only vaguely remember the super bowls.  I dont live near Buffalo, so I've only been to one game.  Bills lost to the Browns 6-3 in a game where Derek Anderson completed 2 passes for 23 yards.  That's the sort of thing I expect.  

post #54 of 1006
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

Again, I ask: when's the last truly successful "hybrid" or "running" QB?


Steve Young?

 

Running QBs get hit a lot and tend to have short bursts of great years with a lot of blah years and injuries.

 

McNabb and Vick have had pretty good careers.  And I don't think we've seen athletes at the position like we have now.  RG3 and Cam Newton can run as well as the most mobile qb's in history but they also have very strong and accurate arms.  I think that's what sets them apart from the Kordell Stewarts of the world.  I haven't really watched  Russell Wilson or Colin Kapernick that closely, so I can't speak to their arms in particular, but their success is telling.  

 

And the rule changes could be what keeps these guys healthy longer.  

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