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And Reid later hired his offensive line coach as the defensive coordinator." src="http://files.thesandtrap.com//images/smilies/new/d2_doh.gif"> But that was after he first hired a defensive line coach who only knew how to coach the wide-nine, which the new defensive coordinator didn't want, nor did the defense have the personnel for.

 

Sorry. Dumpster fire.

 



Ahhhhhh forgot about the whole wide 9 fiasco.............I kind of agree with you now.
post #362 of 1006
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Andy Reid will no doubt go down as one of, if not the, best coaches the city has ever had (and deservedly so). Having said that, he also benefitted from having a great defense and one of the best defensive minds in football for a good stretch of his tenor with the Eagles (kind of like what he's inherited in KC). He helped bring football back to this town and it was great while it lasted, but it was definetly time for him to go (for his sake and the sake of the team). Jury's still out in my mind on Chip Kelly, like a lot of what I've seen so far, but some of the 4th quarter play calling has been flat out horriffic lately.

 

It's not so much the playcalling as the pace. They get to the line of scrimmage and just stand there for 20 seconds, waiting for the play clock to run down. They would be better off if they just huddled up, because it's not like they are checking off on the play when they are at the line. They're just standing there. Can't be good for rhythm, which is an important part of what Chip is trying to do.

 

Either huddle up or just keep up the frantic pace. That seems to work for them most of the game anyway.

post #363 of 1006

Weather playing havoc with games on the East coast, especially in Philly and Baltimore. Two really crazy games.

I didn't think the Eagles were going to score a point and they scored 5 TD's.

post #364 of 1006

Screw the Pats, screw the refs, and screw the NFL. I hope they all get F***ing herpes...pieces of shit. Worst officiated game I've seen in a loooong time. When even the commentators are on Cleveland's side...you know it's bad...

post #365 of 1006
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Screw the Pats, screw the refs, and screw the NFL. I hope they all get F***ing herpes...pieces of shit. Worst officiated game I've seen in a loooong time. When even the commentators are on Cleveland's side...you know it's bad...

 

What happened?

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What happened?

I've typed up two (three now) replies only to have Safari reload the page.

There was a shitty defensive holding call in the end zone that went the Patriots' way with about 40 seconds left. They ended up coming from a few TDs back in the fourth to win it by one. There were a few other bad calls, most that went against the Browns.
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Screw the Pats, screw the refs, and screw the NFL. I hope they all get F***ing herpes...pieces of shit. Worst officiated game I've seen in a loooong time. When even the commentators are on Cleveland's side...you know it's bad...

It was definitely not a well-officiated game, but certainly not the worst I've seen, not even lately. In last year's playoffs - oops, forgot I'm talking to Browns fans.

I'm more upset that the NFL's moronic inability to officiate hits led to the legal, but stupid, hit on Gronkowski that tore his ACL.
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Very close game, but really glad the Niners pulled it off! Go Niners!
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Sadly for you...the Hawks will have the division wrapped up and the number one seed by then so you'll have to watch our 2nd team kick the crud out of your starters while we rest ours...lolllll:-D:-P

Lol what happened to your prediction? I'll wait....
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Lol what happened to your prediction? I'll wait....

The Niners played a great game and deserved the win. We played horribly,, 10 penalties and couldn't capitalize in the red zone. Hats off to the Niners.
post #370 of 1006
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The Niners played a great game and deserved the win. We played horribly,, 10 penalties and couldn't capitalize in the red zone. Hats off to the Niners.

Very classy response. We'll meet again in the post seaon at your house. CANT WAIT
post #371 of 1006
Since Arizona won you guys still need to beat them on the road.
post #372 of 1006
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The Niners played a great game and deserved the win. We played horribly,, 10 penalties and couldn't capitalize in the red zone. Hats off to the Niners.

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But if you played like you did today Arizona will be a cakewalk. The run by Gore drove the nail in the coffin
post #374 of 1006
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

What happened?

I've typed up two (three now) replies only to have Safari reload the page.

There was a shitty defensive holding call in the end zone that went the Patriots' way with about 40 seconds left. They ended up coming from a few TDs back in the fourth to win it by one. There were a few other bad calls, most that went against the Browns.
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Originally Posted by Slice of Life View Post

Screw the Pats, screw the refs, and screw the NFL. I hope they all get F***ing herpes...pieces of shit. Worst officiated game I've seen in a loooong time. When even the commentators are on Cleveland's side...you know it's bad...

It was definitely not a well-officiated game, but certainly not the worst I've seen, not even lately. In last year's playoffs - oops, forgot I'm talking to Browns fans.

I'm more upset that the NFL's moronic inability to officiate hits led to the legal, but stupid, hit on Gronkowski that tore his ACL.

 

I don't see that as the NFL, but the player himself.  He's so impossible to drag down when you hit him around the shoulders that he forces DB's to go low.

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I don't see that as the NFL, but the player himself.  He's so impossible to drag down when you hit him around the shoulders that he forces DB's to go low.

Ward's only purpose was to injure Gronkowski on that hit.  He went low on purpose to take out his knees.  There is no excuse for his actions regardless of whether the NFL calls it legal or whining by defensive players about high hits.  He intentionally went at his knees.  Zero class on his part.

 

As for the PI, the refs ignored other PI's earlier in the game that were blatant by Cleveland.  On the final play, the DB grabbed the left arm of the receiver as he was trying to extend for the catch preventing him from reaching out for the catch (arm bar).  Obvious PI.

post #376 of 1006
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Ward's only purpose was to injure Gronkowski on that hit.  He went low on purpose to take out his knees.  There is no excuse for his actions regardless of whether the NFL calls it legal or whining by defensive players about high hits.  He intentionally went at his knees.  Zero class on his part.

 

As for the PI, the refs ignored other PI's earlier in the game that were blatant by Cleveland.  On the final play, the DB grabbed the left arm of the receiver as he was trying to extend for the catch preventing him from reaching out for the catch (arm bar).  Obvious PI.

I don't think they can be called ignored calls because that would be clear bias, refs (at least the better ones) try to let the players play the game as much as possible, holding could be called on every single play if they wanted to get strict as hell, just like PI could be called when players feet tangle up just from  running  or reaching for the ball but if it was a real ticky tack call that impacted the outcome then that's unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by Fourputt View Post

I don't see that as the NFL, but the player himself.  He's so impossible to drag down when you hit him around the shoulders that he forces DB's to go low.

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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

Ward's only purpose was to injure Gronkowski on that hit.  He went low on purpose to take out his knees.  There is no excuse for his actions regardless of whether the NFL calls it legal or whining by defensive players about high hits.  He intentionally went at his knees.  Zero class on his part.

As for the PI, the refs ignored other PI's earlier in the game that were blatant by Cleveland.  On the final play, the DB grabbed the left arm of the receiver as he was trying to extend for the catch preventing him from reaching out for the catch (arm bar).  Obvious PI.
Take this with a grain of salt because I haven't seen the play yet ... But I tend to agree with fourputt. The defenders know they risk serious penalties if they go high, so it makes sense that they'll start going low. What other option do they have?
post #378 of 1006
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

Take this with a grain of salt because I haven't seen the play yet ... But I tend to agree with fourputt. The defenders know they risk serious penalties if they go high, so it makes sense that they'll start going low. What other option do they have?

 

Yeah, if you can't tackle high, and you can't tackle low, where can you tackle? Within two inches of the waist? A smaller "strike zone" than MLB? Please.

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