Originally Posted by saevel25
Originally Posted by iacas
Joe Flacco scares you? He sucks. Seriously, seriously sucks.
Agreed, Flacco is totally over-rated. He road on the coat tails of Ray Lewis and a defense that has been in the top 15 for the past 5 years. Takes a bit of a burden off the QB when you only have to get more than 17 points to win a game. Don't get me wrong, he had a very good super bowl performance, but he is not an elite QB. He doesn't improve the people around him. I'd say if it wasn't for Anquan Boldin going all Chad Johnson on San Francisco in the super bowl, they might not have won that game. He made great catch after great catch, even on less than stellar throws by Flacco. An elite WR can make a QB look good.
Flacco never should have gotten that massive contract, but he doesn't suck. Come on, guys! :-D He led them to a Super Bowl last year. Maybe Erik doesn't realize how spoiled he is to have his team win so many Super Bowls in his lifetime (says the bitter Jets fan hehe).
The Ravens let up 21.5 PPG last year and ranked 17th overall in total defense. Their run defense was bad last year letting up the 20th most yards per game on the ground to opposing running backs. Ray Lewis was playing on a torn biceps, and was a shell of his former self.
Flacco played unbelievable during their playoff run, albeit with some lucky breaks (Jacoby Jones).
That's not exactly relying on the defense to hold teams to 17 ppg as you said. Again, I'm not saying he's an elite QB -- and he certainly never should have gotten that contract -- but come on, guys. You're going all wisguy on Flacco right now :-P... okay, maybe that was an extreme reference LOL.
I also disagree that Boldin is an elite WR. He's an excellent possession receiver, but he benefits from other players taking attention away from him, like Torrey Smith and Vernon Davis. He's still a very good football player who topped 1000 yards this year for the first time in four season, but he's far from elite.
Flacco got dealt a crappy hand this season. He lost Pitta in training camp, Boldin to free agency, and Ray Rice had an absolutely horrendous year. It's amazing they were even able to manage the 8-8 season that they did because of all the losses they suffered on both sides of the ball.
Baltimore won the Super Bowl last year in a total team effort. Special teams hooked them up when they needed it. The defense made the critical stops when they needed it. They made big catches when they needed it. They got the tough yards when they needed it. Their coaches made the brilliant calls when they needed it. No one unit or player did it all, even though Flacco did earn Super Bowl MVP honors.
Guys, I think we mostly agree that Flacco isn't elite and is overpaid, but come on. He doesn't suck!:-D His numbers were bad this year, yea, but in my opinion, that's more a product of the Baltimore system and his mediocre weapons.