Originally Posted by Jakester23
Golfingdad if everything is challengeable it doesn't matter if they are right 100% of the time. The coaches should get 2 challenges and be able to challenge any call. If they get them both right they should be able to keep challenging call until they get one wrong or they don't have a timeout.
I believe that all of the things that aren't challengable currently are so because of a particular reason. They may be wrong, (like, I think, in the case of the unchallengable fumble) but they have their reason. They don't have calls that are unchallengable "just cuz."
Regardless ... this isn't what I'm talking about, this is a rules thing, and not a "the refs suck" thing. I'm mainly talking about how to make the refereeing better.
Originally Posted by RonTheSavage
It's the inconsistency from crew to crew on any given Sunday. In my "humble" opinion something needs to be done. The on field product is suffering. I think it was Hunter Mahan that tweeted Sunday that the NFL should be ashamed of themselves for the officiating. When you got seven guys on the field and a player falls on the plant leg of a punter thats "roughing" first down. But no we get running into the kicker. This isnt new and 7 guys out there got it wrong???
Whats wrong with making these guys full time? In the offseason they could be getting together and going to ref camp or something I dont know but when guys get the rules wrong that bothers me. Ofcourse calls are going to be missed as these are the fastest strongest guys in the world, I have no issue there. I used to think NBA refs were the worst but now the NFL is #1 "in my book." And this is with me knowing the NBA had mobbed up refs LOL.
OK, I've heard this one several times before. The NFL is, apparently, the only major sport with part time referees. Again, another good sounding talking point, but the NFL is also the only league with 1 game per week for 17 weeks. The other major sports are 2,3 or 6 games a week, so obviously they are pretty much required to be full time. And I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure even those guys have other jobs in the offseason.
Even if they did have off season camps or seminars, it's not like most of the bad calls are due to lack of knowledge of the rules, they're all just judgment calls. (With the possible exception of the roughing the punter call last weekend.)
Originally Posted by Fourputt
Add 2 more refs who do nothing but sit in a booth and watch the game feed on monitors. Give them a direct link to the referee to stop play when they see a bad call, or a penalty which should have been called. Those two see the same feed we do at home, and would hopefully catch 99% of those obvious blown calls. The NFL can afford to pay them, but I don't think that they can afford to continue to ignore the problem.
OK, I'd be on board with this. I already think college does it better with the booth reviews. And I do think that there are also SOME penalty calls that should be reviewable. Holding? No way. Pass interference? Probably still way too grey area. But things like the Chargers illegal procedure against KC, the roughing the punter and the fumble recovery last week, and penalties that aren't really judgment calls (like intentional grounding), all of that stuff could be added to the list of things that replay refs can help with.