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post #1 of 110
Thread Starter 

Have at it, boys. :)

 

Who wins the tournament? Who wins the FECC?

post #2 of 110
Rank
This
Week
Rank
Last
Week
Player Events Points # of Wins # of Top 10's Points behind Lead Reset Points
1 2 Tiger Woods 15 4,352 5 8   2,500
2 1 Henrik Stenson 17 4,229 1 7 123 2,250
3 3 Adam Scott 15 4,122 2 6 230 2,000
4 27 Zach Johnson 23 3,843 1 7 509 1,800
5 4 Matt Kuchar 22 3,330 2 8 1,022 1,600
6 8 Steve Stricker 12 3,180 0 7 1,172 1,400
7 5 Graham DeLaet 25 3,011 0 7 1,341 1,200
8 6 Phil Mickelson 20 2,939 2 7 1,413 1,000
9 7 Justin Rose 16 2,842 1 6 1,510 800
10 9 Brandt Snedeker 22 2,726 2 9 1,626 600
11 15 Jim Furyk 21 2,718 0 7 1,634 480
12 34 Nick Watney 25 2,693 0 4 1,659 460
13 10 Jordan Spieth 22 2,519 1 8 1,833 440
14 12 Jason Day 20 2,347 0 7 2,005 420
15 18 Hunter Mahan 24 2,164 0 5 2,188 400
16 11 Keegan Bradley 24 2,138 0 7 2,214 380
17 14 Gary Woodland 25 2,026 1 2 2,326 360
18 17 Bill Haas 24 1,923 1 9 2,429 340
19 16 Kevin Streelman 24 1,895 1 5 2,457 320
20 13 Jason Dufner 21 1,861 1 4 2,491 310
21 20 Webb Simpson 24 1,758 0 4 2,594 300
22 22 Billy Horschel 25 1,746 1 7 2,606 290
23 29 Charl Schwartzel 18 1,719 0 5 2,633 280
24 25 Roberto Castro 28 1,678 0 3 2,674 270
25 24 Sergio Garcia 16 1,664 0 5 2,688 260
26 19 Boo Weekley 26 1,640 1 4 2,712 250
27 26 Brendon de Jonge 29 1,634 0 4 2,718 240
28 21 D.A. Points 27 1,564 1 3 2,788 230
29 54 Luke Donald 16 1,555 0 5 2,797 220
30 23 Dustin Johnson 21 1,468 1 5 2,884 210

 

 

Points table for reference.

 

I will always go for Tiger - but wouldn't mind seeing Stenson or Scott do it - especially Scott, with the presidents cup coming up....

post #3 of 110
Stenson takes all.
post #4 of 110

Stensens on fire and Tigers flame has dimmed through the season, I really think the shot off the stick into water and penalty at Augusta crushed him early on.  He was on form and in the mix until that awful bad luck and hasn't seemed the same since all season. Dont you just love the way Stenson fires his swing through the ball, amazing !  Watch out for Scotty, he's full of confidence and due another big weekend.  Sneaky bet, back to back from Zac, somebody has to make history and do it sometime and he's red hot off the back of a solid win and a brilliant season.

post #5 of 110

Just a quick refresher (but mainly just saying this out loud for myself because I'm just learning it and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong) ...

 

1.  All of the Top 5 control their own destiny.  If Woods, Stenson, AS, Zach, or Kuch win the tournament, they also win the Cup, regardless of what happens behind them.

 

2.  Everybody in the field, including Dustin Johnson (30), has a theoretical chance at winning the cup.

 

3.  Steve Stricker (6) is the only other person (besides the top 5 already listed) who has a chance to win the cup WITHOUT winning the tournament.

 

A lot of exciting possibilities here, but my favorite is that somebody like Nick Watney - who has had a mediocre season with no wins and just a handful of top 5's, including last weekends runner up finish - could continue playing this weekend like he played yesterday and with a little  lot of help, he could actually win the Cup.  That would be awesome!

 

But I'll be rooting for Stricker.  Dude devotes most of his year to family and only plays in something like 10 tournaments, yet still plays well enough to be in this position.

 

Also rooting for Zach for similar reasons.  He missed the first playoff tournament because of his brothers wedding.

 

I like the guys with perspective, and the ones who are grounded.

post #6 of 110

Woods wins the cup, Rose wins the tournament.

post #7 of 110
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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

Woods wins the cup, Rose wins the tournament.

That would be a pretty tough outcome though. You'd need Rose to win (obviously), and then Tiger would have to finish second or third: http://www.pgatour.com/news/2013/09/16/scenarios--what-the-final-30-need-to-win-the-fedexcup.html
post #8 of 110

And why is this a tough outcome to achieve as compared to others?

post #9 of 110
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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

And why is this a tough outcome to achieve as compared to others?

Just saying, there's a better chance that Tiger finishes somewhere between 4th-30th than exactly 2nd or 3rd.

(Not that it really matters. I mainly wanted a reason to post that link. a2_wink.gif)
post #10 of 110

Kuchar wins both.

post #11 of 110

I would love to see Jordan Spieth pull it off, but I think he is too far back. I'm going with Stenson because of his accuracy off the tee and his GIR.

post #12 of 110
Im going with Tiger for both!
post #13 of 110
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

Just a quick refresher (but mainly just saying this out loud for myself because I'm just learning it and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong) ...

1.  All of the Top 5 control their own destiny.  If Woods, Stenson, AS, Zach, or Kuch win the tournament, they also win the Cup, regardless of what happens behind them.

2.  Everybody in the field, including Dustin Johnson (30), has a theoretical chance at winning the cup.

3.  Steve Stricker (6) is the only other person (besides the top 5 already listed) who has a chance to win the cup WITHOUT winning the tournament.

A lot of exciting possibilities here, but my favorite is that somebody like Nick Watney - who has had a mediocre season with no wins and just a handful of top 5's, including last weekends runner up finish - could continue playing this weekend like he played yesterday and with a little  lot of help, he could actually win the Cup.  That would be awesome!

But I'll be rooting for Stricker.  Dude devotes most of his year to family and only plays in something like 10 tournaments, yet still plays well enough to be in this position.

Also rooting for Zach for similar reasons.  He missed the first playoff tournament because of his brothers wedding.

I like the guys with perspective, and the ones who are grounded.
Just a quick correction on 3.
Steve Stricker is the only player with a chance of winning the FedEx Cup without ANY tournament wins over the entire season.

If he finishes solo 2nd, Woods finishes 10th or worse, Stenson finishes 5th or worse, Scott finishes 4th or worse, and Z. Johnson finishes 3rd or worse, he wins the FedEx Cup with 0 wins in the 2013 season.
post #14 of 110
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Originally Posted by Keith White View Post
 

Stensens on fire and Tigers flame has dimmed through the season, I really think the shot off the stick into water and penalty at Augusta crushed him early on.  He was on form and in the mix until that awful bad luck and hasn't seemed the same since all season. Dont you just love the way Stenson fires his swing through the ball, amazing !  Watch out for Scotty, he's full of confidence and due another big weekend.  Sneaky bet, back to back from Zac, somebody has to make history and do it sometime and he's red hot off the back of a solid win and a brilliant season.

 

Stenson's on fire huh? Let's wait and see how the driver's going first.

 
 
Not really an issue for these guys with the equipment manufacturers they have at their disposal. But it certainly seems he isn't in love with the big stick at the moment.
 
As for the winner, hard to look past Tiger, however recent history from the Tour Championship suggests that someone from the middle of the pack is going to pop up and steal it from the guys who have been up there all season. Will be interesting regardless.
post #15 of 110

Stenson gets fined a goodly sum of money for that rude outburst of anger that all could see. Naughty boy! Next time retreat to the 'Porta-Potty' to bust your club. 

post #16 of 110
Tiger probably wins the tournament, but definitely the Cup. He's led the points for most of the season. He's won all of the biggest events this year that weren't majors. And he has the most scenarios in his favor (ie he can win under more permutations by finishing 2nd, 3rd, etc.) Sure he hasn't won in a while (I mean it's been WEEKS since he's won) but it's not like he's been completely out of any tournament.
post #17 of 110
If Steve Stricker ends up winning the FedEx Cup without a win this year, the trophy should be thrown in a tub of hydrofluoric acid.
post #18 of 110
Stricker is a boss. 12 events, sixth overall. I'd love to see Stenson take it fwiw.
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