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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Hi there

Brand new to the forum and keen to start getting involved.

I've recently purchased a swingbyte 2.0 and have been using it at the range recently. Ive posted links below to what appears to be my average driver swing and average 7 iron swing. I would just like to know what I should be concentrating on improving.

I realise my swings for irons and driver are completely different and this needs to be sorted but I just can't get a consistent swing across my woods and irons that works. I am confused to whether the 'perfect swing' is an in-out swing or a perfectly straight swing also.

As a bit of help I'm hitting my 7 iron quite nicely but slicing my driver badly

7 iron:

https://rest.swingbyte.com/s/LwUTqB8BRcy95g18O0AwjQ

Driver:

https://rest.swingbyte.com/s/6JRBfuW7RIOfCw2HpdAM5Q

Thanks
post #2 of 20

I am unable to answer your question but wanted to post and say welcome to TST.  This will also provide a bump so hopefully  your question will be answered.

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the bump. Clearly an area where not too many are experienced. Will need to just video swing next time
post #4 of 20

Looks like you've got a negative angle of attack on your driver. You can probably get a bunch more distance if you hit it on the upswing.

 

In other news, after seeing how utterly awesome the data is, I'm definitely going to buy a Swingbyte 2!

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks

I would definitely recommend, even if I'm currently quite unsure of the meaning of the results
post #6 of 20
I am not sure how accurate the swingbyte is but off of those numbers, there are two things to really improve one. Try to get to where you are swinging a couple degrees or so up on the ball. Also a face 7.4 degrees right of the path is going to causes too much curve in the ball flight. You want to get that number closer to 0, but not necessary at 0. For this you may need some help to do it.

Welcome to the site!
post #7 of 20

The obvious thing there is that you are slicing because the clubface is too open.  You might try a "stronger" grip, meaning when you first grip the driver with the glove hand, turn it so you can see more knuckles.   Or, keep the same grip, but turn the club so that the face appears to be pointing a bit to the left at address.

 

You have  a "push" swing  path, so even if you adjust the clubface until you have a slight draw, that push draw should still be a more playable shot. 

post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks. Just bought the S&T book so hopefully that will go a long way to stop slicing.

Really starting to understand a golf swing. Before I would just throw my club at ball and hope
post #9 of 20

How accurate do you think the Swingbyte info is?  I ask, in part, because it is quite different on your 7i and Driver.  With the 7i, it appears you should be hitting a ball that starts at the target and then fades to the right as you are swinging to the left (out to in) when you make contact.  With the Driver, it appears your ball should be starting right (open face) and then moving further right (path is to the left of the club face even it is in to out).  Does this describe what your ball is doing?

post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
I am unsure of the exact accuracy in comparison with, for example, flightscope, but those are near enough the exact ball flights.

7 iron looks straight, fades a little and the bounce is always right. Driver I try more for an in-out swing to stop my slice but it seems just to make it worse. Appears from comments that this is due to the open face. Not sure how to improve that yet though
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by MEfree View Post
 

How accurate do you think the Swingbyte info is?  I ask, in part, because it is quite different on your 7i and Driver.  With the 7i, it appears you should be hitting a ball that starts at the target and then fades to the right as you are swinging to the left (out to in) when you make contact.  With the Driver, it appears your ball should be starting right (open face) and then moving further right (path is to the left of the club face even it is in to out).  Does this describe what your ball is doing?

I use the SkyPro, but have read they are both pretty accurate assuming they are calibrated and installed on the club properly so they don't slip.  I've compared the SkyPro to numbers (where there was commonality) from the Trackman and they were close, though SkyPro did report slightly higher swing speeds than the Trackman.

post #12 of 20

Sorry for bringing up older post. Has everyone using the swingbyte updated the software for ITR usage? I just did so and found a substantial change in most of the categories. The 3d images and video swings obviously look the same, but the numbers for club face (open or closed to target, expected shot shape, shaft lean,etc.) are now in line with what I see on the course and with Track Man. My original opinion of the Swingbyte2 was luke warm, but I now say Im  very satisfied and impressed.

A final thought; after a few hundred swings, with driver through wedges, I have only had slippage problems after 3 swings.

post #13 of 20
Sorry.
I'm not too much into gadgets when it comes to golf, except for alignment sticks when I'm at a range.

The best advice an instructor gave was "if your swing start correctly it will probably end correctly with little input from you. If your swing starts bad....",
well, You know where I'm going with this, I'm sure.
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In most cases there is a fine line between a good swing and a bad swing. "That's why one day your swing feels "way off". And the next day your swing feels "right on"...my instructor said to me before he moved.

"Work on your basic fundamentals"
post #14 of 20

Andrew Rice did a review of the newer version and according to him, the accuracy is no good for face and path compared to Trackman.

 

http://www.andrewricegolf.com/2013/06/swingbyte-vs-trackman/

 

I prefer using a high speed camera and noting where on the face the ball made contact with a dry erase or whatever. 

post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by BallMarker View Post

"Work on your basic fundamentals"

 

To shortcut that this can quickly go off-topic, please check out this thread: Fundamentals, Commonalities, and Prioritization .

post #16 of 20
With all do respect I disagree with Andrews assessment. When properly utilizing the ITR function the swingbyte holds up very well by comparison to Track Man
The ITR ability just became available (post negative review) and it stands to reason if a person was not properly targeted with respect to the swingbyte, club face, and intended target that the individual would have "false" information. I stated such in my above post. The difference between with ITR and without is amazing.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by waldo View Post

With all do respect I disagree with Andrews assessment. When properly utilizing the ITR function the swingbyte holds up very well by comparison to Track Man
The ITR ability just became available (post negative review) and it stands to reason if a person was not properly targeted with respect to the swingbyte, club face, and intended target that the individual would have "false" information. I stated such in my above post. The difference between with ITR and without is amazing.

 

If that's true, then I'd take a serious look at trying it but I can't find any side by side demos against Flightscope/Trackman on YouTube. I'd be more convinced of its accuracy when someone takes a swing with Swingbyte attached and a Trackman/Flightscope device working at the same time and the numbers are similar, then I'd really be tempted to buy it. Swingbyte - do a side by side YT vid!

post #18 of 20

waldo,

 

I'm running mine on the Droid OS so I don't have ITR yet, but it sounds like ITR will get these numbers closer to legitimate which is promising.  I tested it against Flightscope back in October, and it was off, way way off.

 

Its a shame the company used ITR as a selling point back in March, and they have yet to release the gold version of the 2.0 app (for Android).  I have the beta, and the video sync leaves a lot to be desired.  All you can do is play the entire swing, you can't stop it at 1/4, 1/2, etc. 

 

You did say that you're seeing numbers that are in line with Trackman.  Are the numbers still based on Swingbyte's data capture points, or did they finally give in and give us numbers that are closer to Trackman and Flightscope?

 

You could do a lot with Swingbyte if its accurate, but I must say that a lot of their decisions have been head scratchers.

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