I know I don't post a whole lot, more of a browser. But I really need the advice of some of you more experienced single digit handicappers. I am currently a mid 80's guy. I have a strong swing with a pretty high swing speed. I like to move the ball back and forth as my game is progressing. I am playing a set of Ping G15's but am looking to move to more of players club. I was looking to trade these off for another set of clubs. Had a guy offer me a set of mizuno mp67's with rifle 5.5 shafts. I want to make sure I am not getting ripped off on this deal. I hit some mp52's at golfsmith so I am sure I can handle switching to a blade. Any suggestions?
Switching to blades *advice*
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I game the mp-62s. Love them. I went from nike ignite (game improvement irons) to the mp-62s. I wasn't ever comfortable swinging the Ignites because they are just so big, like most game improvement irons. I feel comfortable with the 62s and my scores are showing it. The 52s and 67s will feel a little different, make sure you swing them first.
MP 67's are a pretty stout club, pure muscleback. Your going to probably the least forgiving iron out there. As 10+ handicap you'll probably struggle with these irons. If you struggle at all with hitting the ball fat, or not hitting the center of the clubface a good amount of the time, you will loose a few strokes a round on these irons. Game improvement irons can get away with this because they have a large sole and higher bounce, so they glide through turn easier, allowing for slight mishits, and weighting around the edge of the iron expands the sweet spot.
If your looking for a better players club, i would gear towards MP JPX irons, or the H4 or MP 54. They have a slight cavity back and are designed to give a bit more help on miss hits. The JPX will be even more forgiving as well.
If you enjoy a friendly wager on the course, or perhaps getting in on the local skins games, your buddies will really appreciate seeing blades turn up in your bag and will no doubt congratulate you on your good and traditionalist taste.
Okay, sorry for the sarcasm, but as another mid 80s guy who has been sniffing around new irons I've been giving this a lot of thought, and spewing those thoughts in other nearby threads, so here goes again. This is, of course, only my personal opinion.
Golf is hard. The right clubs can make golf a little bit easier. The wrong clubs can make golf a lot harder than it needs to be. A mid 80s guy who would like to be a mid 70s guy isn't going to make the task any easier by playing clubs best suited for a low 70s guy. Quite the opposite.
Do as you wish. I'm looking at game improvement clubs. With all clubs, there is a range within each class. I think my G20s (similar to your G15s) are off near the super game improvement end of the GI range, and I'm looking at Titleist AP1s which I think, based on the specs, are closer to the Players end of the GI range, but still definitely game improvement clubs. My game still needs improvement and clubs are just tools.
Yeah, my partners were not all that happy with my blades, and they even mentioned that wasn't I part of some golf forum? Where's the good advice, and all that...
I am not discouraging you away from blades. They feel great when properly struck, and tell you when they aren't . Personally, I play them more for tradition and nostalgia than anything else; much the way some people hunt with muzzle loaders, fish with hand tied flies and such. For what it's worth, I am not "good enough" for them. I love blades, and I love persimmon. I grew up with them. But you would probably laugh at the thought of switching to a persimmon driver. My first thought would be to pick up a used 5 or 6 iron blade of recent vintage with a shaft you like and try it out with real golf balls on the course. You will know pretty fast if it is something you want to pursue.
Dbuck thanks for the info. As far as distance I rely heavily on my distance. I am around 220-225 with a five iron.I play a lot of irons off the tee. If I lost my ability to be consistant then my game would suffer. I have pretty much decided to go with a forged cavity. I hit the ap1 and 2 today, and was very happy with the result. Thanks for all the advice everyone.
I went from the Nike Slingshots when I was shooting mid 80s to the MP32s and never looked back. I feel I hit the ball better and felt the feedback was much better and helped my game. It's just an individual thing.
But only you know how you hit each and it sounds like you have that figured out. So to answer your original question, when I look to do something like that, I usually go on ebay and see what both sets are bringing and make my decision. Having a club that fits your eye and swing better is worth some extra as well.
Give the MP-54s a serious look. I've been playing the JPX-800s for a few years now, lowered my handicap to 10.5 and I'm looking to make the same upgrade as soon as I can save the cash. They are forged cavity backs but they look like blades at address. If you go hit them you'll immediately fall in love. Guaranteed!
I have the 53's (cavity design with a bit more cavity feature on the long irons) and they are great. In retrospect, I should have gone straight to the 63's (straight up player cavity offering). The milled cavity in the long irons on the 53's isn't a big thing for me. But they all look great at address, the cavities are completely hidden and the profile is nice and thin.
that said - it appears the 54's are nice upgrade for this year's offerings. AND, i understand that they took out a lot of forgiveness in the new 64's since the 54's seemed to be so nice and able to boost the player level coverage into what was the covered on the edge of the 63's.
So, the MP 54's, a good cavity profile (not much different than on the 63/64's) on the short irons and the milled extras on the (is it 6 through 3 irons?) is a pretty decent setup for sure. Thought I'd skip buying the 3 and 4 irons and fill that gap with a nice hybrid.
nothing wrong either with looking at used MP-53's right now too.