Originally Posted by boogielicious
There you go again with the "S" and "C" words. You just cannot articulate any point without it. News flash, having a military or police force or Fire Dept paid for by the people is also socialist. Fixing roads and bridges with money from your tax dollars is also socialist. Paying farmers subsidies even though their crops did well is also socialist. Having the tax dollars from the Northeast, CA, Illinois, TX flow to other states is also socialist. You just conveniently call certain things socialist and forget the rest.
As for redistribution of wealth, the Ponzi scheme known as "trickle down economics" is the biggest sucker play ever put forth by politicians. I love paying Mitt Romney's taxes. Really I do. It also makes my day knowing I pay in full every year and GE doesn't pay at all.
I am a card-carrying liberal**, but I can understand conservative's who complain about Democrats "entitlement" programs like Welfare and things and can point to people who abuse the system. I agree that it's imperfect. But what I don't agree with is referring to something like welfare as an entitlement and calling a person who is on welfare a leech, and at the same time being OK with rich people and corporations (like GE, for example) finding loopholes in the tax code to save millions of dollars. What's the difference? (Other than the fact that it will take a whole hell of a lot of poor people to cost the government as much as one big company)
Another example: California has programs to allow for paternity leave. Basically, for up to 3 weeks (I think) during the childs first year, the state will pay you 55% of your salary for staying home with your child. To me, that (and tax breaks for rish people and big companies) are just as much as a "government handout" as welfare.
It's OK to have a problem with welfare, but to throw names at it like "entitlement" and "socialist program" and such, and not recognize the lack of difference between that and tax loopholes is, I believe, hypocritical.
**That's just an expression, right? Otherwise, I probably need to head down to the DMV because I actually never got my card. ;)