Then inform me, because as I understand it, the tea-partiers are whiny little babies who don't like Obamacare. A law, which was passed (legally), was upheld by the Supreme Court as constitutional, and should now be in effect but since they (wahhh, wahhh) don't like it, they refuse to fund it. So, instead, they are playing terrorists and holding the government and the country hostage. And on top of that, there is apparently more than enough votes to pass the bill to raise the debt ceiling and move on, but simply because of the tea-partiers, Boehner won't let it come to a vote.
They keep saying that the democrats won't negotiate with them, and that is a bunch of crap. There is nothing to negotiate. You lost. Shut up and move on. (I'm talking to republican congressmen there, not you @newtogolf just fyi. ;))
Anyways, that is how I understand it. If I'm misinformed, it certainly wouldn't be the first time. :)
All political parties are whiny little babies, especially liberals and republicans. Don't start stereotyping ;)
Also, Roberts was an idiot in that case. He should have sent it back to congress. No way he can justify that that part of the law is a TAX and not a FINE. Congress said it was a FINE, they documented as a FINE, they even said it was a FINE in their testimony to the supreme court. One judge goes out there and says its a TAX. WTF man.
Oh, the fight hasn't lost. As per Abraham Lincoln, "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." Guess what Obama has done since it was passed. Giving out exemptions, holding off on when it starts, pushing more and more of the bill down the road. Why, because Lincoln was right, ITS A BAD LAW, and Obama doesn't want it to become active all at the same time. He knows it would cause mayhem and the strongest push to repeal it.
Of course, I am not finished. Let's talk about this shutdown and debt ceiling.
These fiscally responsible Pubs are causing our debt to get more expensive.
In 2011, the US was downgraded because we went to the brink.
Now, an hour ago:
"With the federal government on the brink of a default, a House Republican effort to end the shutdown and extend the Treasury’s borrowing authority collapsed Tuesday night as a major credit agency warned that the United States was on the verge of a costly ratings downgrade."
Granted, the tea baggers have a point about making the government more efficient, but I fear they want to radically do away with government instead of slowly slimming it down. They'd rather dafult based on their theories that default would be no big deal.
But people buy our debt based on the strength of our economy, and their faith and credit that we will resolve our issues.
Once you go to default, not only will it kill our economy and cause US panic, it will cause worldwide panic.
Also, it will hasten the fall of the dollar -- and the world will move to another currency -- our interest rates will increase and our ability to dominate the financial world will crumble.
And we owe it all to a GOP leadership that cowers over 60-80 radical Congressmen and their cohorts in crime like the Koch Brothers. If the economy fails, the Koch Brothers will not suffer, neither will the 1%, and neither will these extremist politicians -- they don't have to worry about re-election - they've gerrymandered the districts to have a "let them eat cake" attitude. Pitiful.
It is small business, upper middle, middle, lower upper, the poor, the downtrodden, the hungry -- you name it, who will suffer. It will raise the deficit. Because guess what happens when the economy craters -- more people go on welfare.
Thanks, radical right and the cowards of the GOP Leadership for bringing us to the brink.
I suggest you raise the limit, open up the Gov't and negotiate with other leaders on an even bargaining basis.
Yet the senate hasn't even passed a long term budget in over 4 years now. Do you know that its their job to send a budget to the house to be reviewed and voted on? Its in the constitution as one of the primary jobs of the senate.
I do agree, the tea party have gone on strong here. I don't agree with holding the government hostage. But I do say this, should a government be this large, were we are facing supposed mayhem if they don't raise the debt ceiling. Why put all our bags in one basket here with the federal government. Wasn't this the fear of the founding father's who were against a strong central government. Why should we all be held hostage by a feeble entity. Why not just let the states govern themselves, and let them be able to tailor their laws for the people who live there? That way, one law in California is designed for them, and another law in Ohio is designed for Ohio. Instead of saying, OK all states must do this. Then you get people falling thru the cracks, wasted money, ect..
Here's the thing, no one can make it affordable. The bill did nothing to address the underlying issues with the rising costs to American's health care. If anything, the health care law will increase costs.
They put that chart up showing how much spending there will be in health care. It does taper down a bit, kinda starts to level off, but it does not reduce costs at all. It does not fix the problem. Health care will become a major spending issue for us all. It will not be economical. Unless we can fix the underlying problems with our nations health, how doctors are being treated and paid, and getting the people back to a doctor patient relationship instead of a doctor - health insurance provider - patient relationship.