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Good General Numbers for Hips/Torso at A7

post #1 of 37
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Hips: 40° open

Torso: 25° open

 

Note that the lead shoulder being down and in front can make the shoulders look more closed (and be more closed) than the torso; i.e. shoulder measurements are often about 10-15° or so.

 

That is all. :)

post #2 of 37

Thanks, Erik. Simple but informative. 

post #3 of 37

Erik, can we get a TL:DR for this one, please?  That's a bit ridiculous of you to expect us to sift through all of that mess. :-P

post #4 of 37
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

Erik, can we get a TL:DR for this one, please?

 

Sure, here: open up while getting your arms down in sequence.

post #5 of 37
What in the world is a7 mean?
post #6 of 37
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Originally Posted by c peterich View Post

What in the world is a7 mean?

http://thesandtrap.com/a/big-list-of-golf-terminology


A1: Address
A2: Club shaft parallel to the ground on the takeaway
A3: Lead arm parallel to the ground on the takeaway
A4: Top of backswing
A5: Lead arm parallel to the ground on the downswing
A6: Club shaft parallel to ground on the downswing
A7: Impact
A8: Club shaft parallel to ground on follow-through.
A9: Right arm parallel to ground on follow-through.
A10: Finish
post #7 of 37
I had my hips 99* open and my coach said that was good. What am I missing
post #8 of 37
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Originally Posted by nick1998bunker View Post

I had my hips 99* open and my coach said that was good. What am I missing

If you really were 99° open, your hips would be pointing left of your target at impact.

 

Edit: I'm an idiot.

post #9 of 37
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Originally Posted by nick1998bunker View Post

I had my hips 99* open and my coach said that was good. What am I missing

How do U do that? Must be very very flexible.. Either u lateral shift, or pivot.. I think for us older guys, lateral shift with slight turn is efficient
post #10 of 37

If you study here, you should lack confusion...

post #11 of 37
I see a lot of this at pre impact... But than I see the other too ( belt buckle facing target.. No turn until later) .. Must come down to swing style.. Maybe huge pivot is needed for some guys who don't want to be stuck.. Others ( one planers) require less of a turn and more bump.. Not sure, maybe I'm dead wrong.. Don't bear me up for asking
post #12 of 37
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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond View Post

If you study here, you should lack confusion...

I'm trying, I was just happy to be on a open forum.. U live and learn
post #13 of 37
I have no hip turn.. I see this a lot too.. My belt buckle faces the target.. So I guess what is wrong what is right? This might help a lot of us.. Is it a conscious move? Or one that is a reaction to an action? Or do u need to practice the pivot like a mad man in order to make it automatic?[







any qualified advice would be appreciated
post #14 of 37

No its just syncing up the correct turn rates. If you constantly have trouble with your hips getting way ahead, try to speed up the rate, or start your arms down sooner in the downswing. If your arms have dropped to quick, then you need to work on speeding up your hips, maybe feel that delay at the top of the swing, the slight pause, is my best guess on how to combat that. For me, I don't pause, when i am finishing my shoulder turn i am trying to drop my arms. I got a pretty aggressive and quick hip turn, so I need to speed up and start my arms earlier. 

post #15 of 37
Still confusing.. I guess what is a proper body pivot look like? How much do you turn? ( how far left) .. I see guys on tour that goat hump ( Phil mickelson) and some don't... What is acceptable? What isn't?

This is one part of the swing that is so vague.. Again I have read over a million different answers on this, and in one on one lessons. I was told to just swing left, or feel right shoulder is even with the ball at impact.. Personally, the pivot will fix 90% of our swing issues..IMO.
post #16 of 37
This qualifies as a " chicken or the egg" quote that they discussed in docf all the time
post #17 of 37

Try the above
post #18 of 37
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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond View Post

http://youtu.be/lrQpbUpCHsY

Try the above
.. Never has these questions, until I started filming my swing.. Used to just judge how I was doing by ball flight.. Camera is the devil. :) . Will drive u to the nut house
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