Originally Posted by k-troop
Originally Posted by Fourputt
No, I'm exposing my experience with the game and knowledge of the rules of golf.
Well then, I'll just say that your opinions (because that's what you're expressing) will carry a lot more weight when you show that you can see two sides to an issue and understand that not everyone is required to draw the exact same conclusions as you.
Tiger's reaction when he pulled the twig-- then abruptly stopped-- is evidence that he saw the ball move. It may not be persuasive or sufficient for you, but it is evidence.
I can see both sides just fine, but I also see them from the viewpoint of a rules official, and I try to keep my personal feelings out of the equation. Believe it or not, if Tiger had called in a rules official at the time, he might have gotten away with no penalty at all, because the official would have been required to rule on the evidence presented to him, which would have been Tiger's testimony as to what happened. In that case, he would have agreed that no movement occurred, and Tiger would have continued play without penalty.
At worst, the RO would have ruled that the ball moved, Tiger would have attempted a futile try at replacing it for that 1mm twitch, and he'd have played on with one penalty stroke. But I doubt that would have been the outcome.
What would you have done if you were removing a twig and saw the ball twitch? You'd have quit pulling on it just as Tiger did. And if you truly believed that it hadn't moved, only wiggled, then you'd have continued play, just as Tiger did. And if you can't admit that then I'm not the one who can't see both sides.