Originally Posted by rkim291968
I will play it two ways depending on how was doing until this hole.
1) If my ball striking is on, I am hitting straight to the middle of the green and hope my ball sticks. I will use higher tee to get some height on the ball. With this strategy, I will average bogey on this hole. One of my past home course has very similar hole to this one and my average score there is 3.9 strokes.
2) If my ball striking is off, I will lay up to the fattest part of the fairway. That will give me a wedge shot and a putt or two. With this strategy, my average score will be around 3.7 as I can get up and down from that distance about 30% of the time. Given my male ego, although this is a smarter play, I will likely do 1) above more often.
I would answer very similarly to #2 for this hole. Without all of the dangers, different story, but here I'd be hitting a club that can't make that front middle bunker. Then, much like you, I get up and down about 30% of the time. Probably a little less from where I'd be.
#1 sounds great, but I see a few problems with it. For one thing, even by your own numbers you are going to score better by #2, but more often play #1. Your strategy is actually to score worse?
Also, I'm not sure a bogey golfer averages bogey on this hole with a GIR strategy. I'm not actually sure a bogey golfer averages bogey on this hole with any strategy. CR is a 20 and has never made par. But I bet he has doubled. Here are some problems with a GIR strategy: first cut thick and deep - native areas thin but tall, and a good lie is not likely - bunkers deep w high walls - false front. This is a pro tour par 3. A bogey golfer is not going to green this very often. And if you don't green it or hit it in that one little area front right, you are likely in one of the many stroke increasers CR laid out. Now we could be at double or worse.
Originally Posted by teamroper60
This one distance wise is similar to a hole on a course I play fairly regularly.. For me, (and under basically ideal conditions) this shot would be a 4-iron off the tee, aimed toward the right edge of the green. If my shot tracks normally, it draws back just a little and lands on the front edge/fringe, right-center, rolling onto the green.
The nice thing about my choice there is, typically when I mis-hit my 4-iron off the tee, it's a low screamer that runs straight and about 150, which would leave me short and clear of the trouble, so I shouldn't be any worse off than if I had intentionally laid up.
I'm starting to feel I am a much worse golfer or maybe ball striker than many other bogey golfers. "Normally" you hit a 4i baby draw over 200 yards to a small space guarded by trouble on all sides? Are you sure you are a bogey golfer? That sounds like a fantastic game of golf.
But more importantly - it isn't going to roll on as you hope. It is a false front. Even if you pull off that fantastic weapon of a shot you have, you still aren't going to be on the green. You'll be hoping for an up and down - same as if you'd laid up. Also - an over cooked draw or the straight low screamer mishit could land you in one of the treacherous bunkers. Maybe talking double or worse now. And if you slice it? Looks ugly. IMO, you took on additional risks for very little reward.
For me - no damn way I'm ending up in that bunker. No way. I'll play for bogey and try to make it up somewhere else. Once again - why a bogey golfer would adopt a par strategy on an evil 200+yd par 3 doesn't make sense to me. We only par so many 160yd par 3's with no trouble. The better strategy is to protect bogey and hope to get a surprise par with a good chip or putt.