Originally Posted by iacas
Originally Posted by Meltdwhiskey
When does a divot hole cease to be a divot hole?
At the same point in time a burrowing animal hole ceases to be a burrowing animal hole
No, that doesn't cut it. A hole is a hole. When it's filled in, it's no longer a hole. Divot holes (despite being incorrectly named "holes") can be partially filled in.
Please answer the question. Provide a definition for a divot hole that does is non-ambiguous. The pornography definition of "I know it when I see it" doesn't apply here.
Please answer the question. Provide a definition for a divot hole that does is non-ambiguous.
I promise I don't have the passion about this particular subject to continue this. It was just a thought I had that it seemed a bit unfortunate to hit into a divot. I might be able to spend some real time on it and come up with a bullet proof definition, but I am not. I will however start with one that might suffice for the situations I am thinking of.
You get free relief if your ball is in the scar left on the ground that a golfer of knowledge and prudence would say was clearly the result of a divot and caused by a player and his club, and further, the scar must have not healed in any significant way - not even what the aforementioned golfer would consider 10% healed, but what he would consider a fresh, unhealed scar. For further clarification, please use the graphic:
I see this on the golf course and I don't have any reservations about saying this golf ball is in a divot (or divot hole or divot scar or grassless spot created by a golfer swinging his club).
A hole is a hole. When it's filled in, it's no longer a hole.
The groundhog hole can carry similar ambiguity as this divot situation. When the hole is 6 inches deep, it is easier to see. But what about when it is 1 inch deep? 5/6 inch deep? 3/4 inch deep? 2/3 inch deep? 1/2 inch deep? 1mm deep???
The point is, a divot, as you have pointed out, will look different over time until it there is no remnant of it. The same is true of a groundhog hole that is abandoned. It gets shallower and shallower over time and is subject to the elements or grass growing over it, etc. And there is a point in time that the previous home of that groundhog will be ruled 'not a hole' anymore.
The clarity with which you can determine groundhog holes, I feel I can do the same with a fresh divot.