Originally Posted by Cartboy
Absolutely right on. Good suggestions, and I will address those. What I really need now is suggestions on what to do with Slow groups who do not speed up after two warnings.
Also, we have one of those clubs people can join for faster play, and hoyty-toytyness in our area, and I'm a member there, too. They have GPS and they also have marshals, which they thought they could eliminate when they went to GPS, but found they could not. (My uncle was marshal there and I was to replace him when he quit. He died in 2007, and when I went in to sign on, marshal had been eliminated, and I was place in Player Services.).
That is a much easier course to play, and their pace is 4 1/2. We are a resort area, and even that course has resort golfers.
1. Tees. We have wrestled with the course being too long from the forward "mens'" tee from the beginning, but did not have the budget and some holes would not accommodate building a sixth set of tees. So, 2 years ago I suggested we have a Combo Tee (after I played the course in my mind). We did that, its rated and sloped, and it's on the card. The regular member group I play with moved to it last year, after resisting it a year. The owners did not allow some I suggested to be moved forward, and those holes are still Pace killers. The member group I play with plays different forward tees than the card, but within what is allowed to not change the slope and rating.
I will suggest closing the back two tees on busy days. They are 7000 and 7300. If someone wants a long course, 6700 would be the longest.
2. Nothing anyone does or says is going to change our course superintendent. We have 5 "quadrants" and the pin is rotated each day. All last year I, and others, suggested a placement on the first green never be used, to no avail. The first hole is a bad start. Long, cart path only, and very tough green with tough pin placements. I have suggested ways to be able to take carts on the fairway, but that has not happened. It is a long walk from the cart path to some tee shots.
3. The cart paths have exactly those markings, and we have 150-stakes in the fairways. Sprinkler heads are marked and we're getting GPS next month, so I've been told. One of the main benefits of GPS is that you can identify slow play on it, and show groups how they have made everyone behind them slow.
4. Good idea. Where do you suggest that be?
5. The GM put clocks on 1 and 10, which are ignored and abused (reset by golfer). Because of the layout of our course, pace reminders should be at 5, 9, 13, and 17, the 1, 2, 3, and 4 hour points. My take is that clocks are ineffective because golfers don't relate to their tee time, how long they've been on the course. An electronic warning on the GPS when we get them, that would show them behind pace as soon as they are, should replace signs more effectively.
So, let's focus on what to do with groups that have been warned twice and have not sped up. What should that 3rd visit from the marshal be? Please bear in mind that with some of our golfers, they find out they should not be on our course, too late, and they just physically cannot play any faster. They are attracted to us because we are a "gotta play" facility, #1 in the State.