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Hi, after visiting this site for quite a while and truly appreciating the gathering of knowledge, I decided to join and ask for some advice. I hope for some feedback about forged vs cast with regards to an injury I have. To narrow the important stuff: I am looking for a game improvement iron with little to no offset and I am concerned that a forged iron may "punish" my elbow on miss hits. I tend to hit out on the toe when I miss. For me graphite doesn't seem to matter and actually my current callaway x20 tours with px 6.0 do not hurt me. But yet my ping i3 with regular cushin did....go figure. I'm looking for a new club head with probably kbs 90 reg. flex. And I'm thinking mizuno mpx pro, adams a4 or cb2-3, or taylor r9 tp. Less offset the better. Surprisingly, living on cape cod there's really no place near to try out some of this stuff. Just wondering if the new forged cavity backs will "beat up" my elbow like my old blades do vs cast cavity backs. I just can't use the blades anymore on account of my "misses". Any comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks
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The forges/cast issue is immaterial.

But you would be better off using some forgiving cavity back irons.

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Like shorty said, forged and cast play no role in this. Get some cavity backs so the miss hits don't hurt so much. I'd also look at different grips, Winn makes some nicely cushioned grips, they wear out a little quickly but might be worth looking into.

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Thanks, yes cavity backs for sure. Just have never tried these newer cavity back forged irons. I don't want that awful blade feeling when I hit one bad. My cavity back cast's are pretty tennis elbow friendly. But less offset almost always = forged....
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I'd think about the injury itself, how it was sustained and what it is in your swing that plays it up. Could be that on painful shots you're over-stretching, firing the elbow too hard or you're hitting down on the ball too much and the ground is jolting it (I used to have this problem but with tendinitis of the left wrist).

If you have existing clubs I'd definitely look to fixing the fault rather than swapping the equipment as priority. If you don't have clubs as the others have said a forgiving cavity backed set would be ideal to lessen the damage on bad contact shots.

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Thanks, yes cavity backs for sure. Just have never tried these newer cavity back forged irons. I don't want that awful blade feeling when I hit one bad. My cavity back cast's are pretty tennis elbow friendly. But less offset almost always = forged....

Ping i20's are what I play and they are very forgiving (compared to my older Titleist cavity backs) even on extreme toe hits.  I can hit balls with these clubs and leave a ball mark on the face that is half off the end of the grooves , and it doesn't rattle my fingers.

This may be true for a lot (or even all) of the newer cavity backs, I don't know, but it's definitely true in my case.

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I am gaming callaway x20 tours with px 6.0. They don't bother my elbow much but I am up for a change and want little to no offset clubs. It took me a while to find my cally's for little offset purposes and they have given me great rounds below par on occasions. But they are cast and I'm just skeptical after useing blades for years that the forging of cavity backs may still give me that nasty sting which I do not need in my life. Thanks for your help
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The sting has nothing to do with forge vs cast. The sting is related to the way the weight and mass is distributed in the club face. Don't waste your time agonizing over forge or cast, it makes NO difference. A cast or forged blade will sting in miss hits, a cast or forged cavity back will not (or will to a much lesser extent).

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

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Id agree that it doesnt matter for this instance.  If you were talking blades Id say maybe but really the feel of a cast cavity back and a forged cavity back isnt so different to the point where you should effect you.

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I found Callaway XHot Pros to be very forgiving on toe hits, and I play them w KBS Tour 90 R Flex.


As I was changing my swing, all I had were toe hits for a couple of months until I got to that issue. They got me through … oh, and keep your head steady and don't hump goats...

Good prices available … on clubs, not the goats.

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I found Callaway XHot Pros to be very forgiving on toe hits, and I play them w KBS Tour 90 R Flex.

As I was changing my swing, all I had were toe hits for a couple of months until I got to that issue. They got me through … oh, and keep your head steady and don't hump goats...

Good prices available … on clubs, not the goats.

Bah...the goats get used to it. Keep a steady head and hump all the goats you want!

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

PSA - "If you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!"

My Whackin' Sticks: :cleveland: 330cc 2003 Launcher 10.5*  :tmade: RBZ HL 3w  :nickent: 3DX DC 3H, 3DX RC 4H  :callaway: X-22 5-AW  :nike:SV tour 56* SW :mizuno: MP-T11 60* LW :bridgestone: customized TD-03 putter :tmade:Penta TP3   :aimpoint:

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Thanks, yes cavity backs for sure. Just have never tried these newer cavity back forged irons. I don't want that awful blade feeling when I hit one bad. My cavity back cast's are pretty tennis elbow friendly. But less offset almost always = forged...

Current clubs can be just about anything. Not uncommon to see "tour" versions with less offset. Some brands like Cleveland offer several version of their current irons.

Dave :-)

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The sting has nothing to do with forge vs cast. The sting is related to the way the weight and mass is distributed in the club face. Don't waste your time agonizing over forge or cast, it makes NO difference. A cast or forged blade will sting in miss hits, a cast or forged cavity back will not (or will to a much lesser extent).

Correct.  But be careful not to confuse the sting with The Sting .  One has to do with weight and mass in the clubhead, and the other has to do with con men, horse racing, and ragtime music. ;)

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Conventional wisdom would tend to indicate that the only difference in terms of preserving a beat up elbow would be in going to graphite shafts. Somehow you have precluded this or it does not apply to you?

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Conventional wisdom would tend to indicate that the only difference in terms of preserving a beat up elbow would be in going to graphite shafts. Somehow you have precluded this or it does not apply to you?

I started writing a post about the benefits of graphite shafts as well then reread his original post and he said they didn't help.

The few people I know that had elbow, shoulder or wrist issues found some relief going to graphite over steel.  Other than weight, the impact reduction is one of the main selling points for graphite shafts.

Joe Paradiso

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Thank you for your comments. I will confess that the two types of graphite shafts I was using for last summer were not pro shafts. One set were an older king cobra oversized tour. The other an off the shelf adams "ladies" set that I played about 15 rounds with. The adams were easier on the elbow but did not have enough back bone to keep me wanting to play them. Perhaps the cobras' were a bit better than the cushins, but still felt like they were doing damage. Tennis elbow is a tough thing. But so far I found the PX, although not my favorite, definitely vibrate the bones less. Hopefully this will help someone with similar problems. PS......Why are there so many goat humpers on this site?? My buds and me have always talked about woman......and football....
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