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post #19 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post
 


Seriously, though. I watched about ten of his videos, and started to get the idea that Mizuno clubs are the best. What was funny was that, I had never heard of Mizuno before that. I think it's the posters and the over-sized Mizuno golf bag sitting in the background in every one of his instructional videos that might have had something to do with it?

 

BTW, I do actually like my MP-32 irons, whether it was because of the subliminally implanted messages while watching his videos or the sweet feel of the clubs I'll never know. :-$ 

 

Oh, and when my ball striking gets good enough, I plan to purchase some new MP-54 or something like it from Mizuno (with KBS shafts, of course).

You need to watch more of his videos then and some more recent ones before you make a statement like that.

post #20 of 44
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Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer View Post
 

You need to watch more of his videos then and some more recent ones before you make a statement like that.

 

Okay, sorry Mark (if you are reading this thread).

 

BTW, I couldn't help but notice that your signature has no less than 4 "Mizuno" logos :-P

 

To be fair, I also like Mizuno for the feel. I think a lot of people who have used them feel the same way. :-)

post #21 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post
 

 

Okay, sorry Mark (if you are reading this thread).

 

BTW, I couldn't help but notice that your signature has no less than 4 "Mizuno" logos :-P

 

To be fair, I also like Mizuno for the feel. I think a lot of people who have used them feel the same way. :-)

For one, Im not Mark Crossfield.  For two, yup, I like Mizuno.  Thats no mystery to anyone who as seen my posts on this forum or any other golf forum.

post #22 of 44

Okay guys, I am at the point of exhaustion trying to work with the MP52.

 

I had three types of clubs at my immediate disposal at the range today.

 

1) Ping i20 CFS stiff shafts

 

2) Mizuno MP52 DG S300

 

3) MP-32 KBS Tour Stiff

 

This is what I found: i20 (easiest); MP32 (about 20% harder to use???); MP52 were really hard to use. I was able to work the clubs a little bit with the i20 and the MP32, but the MP52 were obnoxiously resistant to any attempts. The stiffness of all three clubs feel about the same.

 

Tried 10 shots each and the numbers are eyballed averages using the 120 yard tree and multiple 150 yard flags on the driving range verified with a Bushnell rangefinder:

MP52 9i gave me an anemic 130 yard ball flight and about 4 to 5 yards roll.

MP32 9i gave me a high ball flight of about 135 yards and about 3-4 yards roll.

i20 gave me about the same 135 yards, but a much higher ball flight and almost no roll.

 

MP52 8i gave me an anemic 140 yard ball flight and about 4 to 5 yards roll.

MP32 8i gave me a high ball flight of about 145 yards and about 3-4 yards roll.

i20 gave me about the same 150 yards, and a much higher ball flight and almost no roll.

 

MP52 7i gave me an anemic 148-ish yard ball flight and about 4 to 5 yards roll.

MP32 7i gave me a high ball flight of about 155 yards and a few yards roll.

i20 gave me about the same 160 yards, but a much higher "penetrating" ball flight and less roll.

 

Obviously, one conclusion is that I am probably best fit for the i20, but my question is why the MP32 seem to be so much easier to hit than the MP52? I know there is more bounce in the MP32 (several degrees more, and the sole is obviously thicker), and neither have a lot of offset and have virtually the same amount.

 

I thought the MP52 were supposed to be a "dual muscle cavity back" club, while the MP32 is supposed to be a "blade".

 

Anybody else experience the same thing? Or is the bounce the primary factor in the difference in the performance of the clubs?

post #23 of 44
One question....

....why in the holy HELL would you be trying to "work" the ball?!



Sorry....that's all I've got. Well that and an observation that you shouldn't expect ANY "roll out" from a well struck 7-iron on up.....
post #24 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post
 

Okay guys, I am at the point of exhaustion trying to work with the MP52.

 

I had three types of clubs at my immediate disposal at the range today.

 

1) Ping i20 CFS stiff shafts

 

2) Mizuno MP52 DG S300

 

3) MP-32 KBS Tour Stiff

 

This is what I found: i20 (easiest); MP32 (about 20% harder to use???); MP52 were really hard to use. I was able to work the clubs a little bit with the i20 and the MP32, but the MP52 were obnoxiously resistant to any attempts. The stiffness of all three clubs feel about the same.

 

Tried 10 shots each and the numbers are eyballed averages using the 120 yard tree and multiple 150 yard flags on the driving range verified with a Bushnell rangefinder:

MP52 9i gave me an anemic 130 yard ball flight and about 4 to 5 yards roll.

MP32 9i gave me a high ball flight of about 135 yards and about 3-4 yards roll.

i20 gave me about the same 135 yards, but a much higher ball flight and almost no roll.

 

MP52 8i gave me an anemic 140 yard ball flight and about 4 to 5 yards roll.

MP32 8i gave me a high ball flight of about 145 yards and about 3-4 yards roll.

i20 gave me about the same 150 yards, and a much higher ball flight and almost no roll.

 

MP52 7i gave me an anemic 148-ish yard ball flight and about 4 to 5 yards roll.

MP32 7i gave me a high ball flight of about 155 yards and a few yards roll.

i20 gave me about the same 160 yards, but a much higher "penetrating" ball flight and less roll.

 

Obviously, one conclusion is that I am probably best fit for the i20, but my question is why the MP32 seem to be so much easier to hit than the MP52? I know there is more bounce in the MP32 (several degrees more, and the sole is obviously thicker), and neither have a lot of offset and have virtually the same amount.

 

I thought the MP52 were supposed to be a "dual muscle cavity back" club, while the MP32 is supposed to be a "blade".

 

Anybody else experience the same thing? Or is the bounce the primary factor in the difference in the performance of the clubs?

I'm going to go way, way, way out on a limb here and bet a large amount of money that trying to work the ball, and tinkering with iron sets is NOT "what Mike told you to work on." :-P

 

I ask this as politely as possible; why are you wasting your time doing that?  Take the clubs you like the most and work on your swing.

 

Stop tinkering!!! :beer:

post #25 of 44
I would need to pay $700 for a second set of i20s. Need to hold off on big golf spending fora little whole, so I'm stuck with one of these sets.

By working, I mean getting the nice little draw I've been working on the past 3 months or so.

What I really need is another set of i20 at a price below the wife radar a1_smile.gif
post #26 of 44
Sorry, hafta ask ... Why do you need another set of i20s?
post #27 of 44

Also, I bet you can get I20's for less, as you can buy New I 25's for 699.00...:-D

post #28 of 44
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

Sorry, hafta ask ... Why do you need another set of i20s?


My son now is the proud owner of my last set. I'm so generous to the team effort. O:)

 

He hits them too well to take them away. I think they will be good till at least the start of the next season. If he grows another 6" this year, I'll take these back. If he can still use them next year, I'll get another pair on sale.

 

 

 

 

In any case here are my dispersions on the MP32, 6i in the foreground with 15 shots, the 9i bottom to top is in the background bottom, 8i then 7i.

Looks like they will work for the interim. I don't expect miracles for <$50 clubs.

 

 

Closeup of the 9i, notice my dispersion is quite large, this is because I switched clubs and needed to get into the swing of things so to speak. There are even hosel marks, ugh. Then I started hitting the sweet spot more, as can be seen by the plastic from the range balls getting cut by the grooves. These were only about 130-135 yard shots. The individual imprints are about the size of a dime.

 

I think these will work in the interim for my drill work and some reasonable play. I don't expect my handicap to drop anytime soon anyway. However, I want my ball striking to get good enough to keep me close to the greens.

 

 

BTW, I'm exhausted after hitting 250 plus balls today. I'm going to rest for the remainder of the evening.


Edited by Lihu - 5/10/14 at 10:41pm
post #29 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post


My son now is the proud owner of my last set. I'm so generous to the team effort. e5_innocent.gif

He hits them too well to take them away. I think they will be good till at least the start of the next season. If he grows another 6" this year, I'll take these back. If he can still use them next year, I'll get another pair on sale.




In any case here are my dispersions on the MP32, 6i in the foreground with 15 shots, the 9i bottom to top is in the background bottom, 8i then 7i.
Looks like they will work for the interim. I don't expect miracles for <$50 clubs.




Closeup of the 9i, notice my dispersion is quite large, this is because I switched clubs and needed to get into the swing of things so to speak. There are even hosel marks, ugh. Then I started hitting the sweet spot more, as can be seen by the plastic from the range balls getting cut by the grooves. These were only about 130-135 yard shots. The individual imprints are about the size of a dime.



I think these will work in the interim for my drill work and some reasonable play. I don't expect my handicap to drop anytime soon anyway. However, I want my ball striking to get good enough to keep me close to the greens.


BTW, I'm exhausted after hitting 250 plus balls today. I'm going to rest for the remainder of the evening.

I'd return those irons. They're defective. The heads were put on backwards! a3_biggrin.gif
post #30 of 44
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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post

I'd return those irons. They're defective. The heads were put on backwards! a3_biggrin.gif

Ah, yes. That explains it. . . a3_biggrin.gif
post #31 of 44
Well, I'm back on the Mp32 bandwagon.

According to the maltby playability factor, the bounce specifications and my experience, the mp32 are easier to play than the Mp52.

Two rounds with my lowest scores to date on my home course, and the fact that I can hit the 4i and 3i more than 180 yards makes me feel like it's a better fit. It must be the KBS shafts, they feel much less harsh than the DG S300.

So, until I get fit for the irons, this is my best bet.

They just feel good.
post #32 of 44
Sounds like they are working for you. I'm swinging MP37 7-pw with a 3 hybrid and 4-6 acer xf pro. For $150 shipped off EBay I got a really good condition set of MP32 7-pw with MP60 5-6 and MP Fli Hi cut muscle 4. I can't wait to play that combo set!!
post #33 of 44
I love my MP 52s, I can't imagine 32s being easier to hit...

And my DGS300 feel great, plenty of shaft load on them.
post #34 of 44
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Originally Posted by colin007 View Post

I love my MP 52s, I can't imagine 32s being easier to hit...

And my DGS300 feel great, plenty of shaft load on them.

The MP52 do have a lower playability factor than the 32s, and the bounce is less. The soles are a lot narrower than the 32s.

I like both clubs, but the 32s are easier for me to hit at this point. I'm not exactly getting 190 yard carries with my 6i, so whoever the shaft is perfectly optimized is not relevant at this point. I'm working on my driver and fitting, and will worry about the irons later. The courses I play along with my "246 yard" drives, don't force me to use much of anything longer than the 7i/8i anyway.

Later on, I might try the R300 shafts in my MP32 or 52.
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post

The MP52 do have a lower playability factor than the 32s, and the bounce is less. The soles are a lot narrower than the 32s.

I like both clubs, but the 32s are easier for me to hit at this point. I'm not exactly getting 190 yard carries with my 6i, so whoever the shaft is perfectly optimized is not relevant at this point. I'm working on my driver and fitting, and will worry about the irons later. The courses I play along with my "246 yard" drives, don't force me to use much of anything longer than the 7i/8i anyway.

Later on, I might try the R300 shafts in my MP32 or 52.

I've read that some have issues with Maltby's ratings. Is it possible that they screwed this up? I'm just having a hard time seeing how the32s could be easier to hit than the 52s.
post #36 of 44
They have wider soles, and come out of the grass/dirt easier.

Maybe just my perception too.
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