Originally Posted by rustyredcab
If you buy a SkyCaddie now, you should expect that the only way it will work is by paying a subscription each year. Stop the subscription and the devise will do nothing.
When I bought my first, and then second, SkyCaddie, that was not the case. The devise needs to be hooked up to a computer to upload and update courses. Mine could only store 10 courses. If the course had been updated by Skycaddie, o their website, you had to go through the computer connected update, it would not update via satellite. So, if you played different courses, or you regular courses changed (like added a bunker), you needed the subscription to change the data stored on the devise. If you drive across the country, you have to plan where you expect to play and download courses from a computer with internet connection. I do not know of another GPS devise that requires this odd planning and pre-loading of the course.
I paid my subscription for years and even upgraded to the an international version ahead of a Scotland trip. Then I found that I did not update or change my 10 courses for over a year so I let the subscription lapse. All worked fine for a while until SkyCaddie changed the policy and said you needed to keep a subscription all the time. Remember that you needed to hook the devise to a computer to change any courses of even pay your subscription because they claimed that they could not access your devise setting over satellite to load or change course data. That is why you could only store 10 courses and why the data was not current unless you updated the course with a computer and internet connection to their site. Then, one day, they did access all our devises and ripped out all the course data so that the old courses were all gone. Everything was gone and the devise did nothing without a subscription. Again, the devise I paid for, with the courses I downloaded with a paid subscription to their download service, had been wiped clean.
That change in policy (I'm sure it was legal) was a change in business plan and a violation of the promise and practice of the original agreement -- the agreement and practice in place when I paid over $200 for the devise. Again, I'm sure they had the legal right but, IMHO, they did not have an ethical leg to stand on. And for that reason, I sing my disapproval of them as a company and recommend people weak other options for GPS devises. And, BTW, how could they suddenly access and change the course information on or devises via satellite when that claimed that the reason for the computer hookup was technology based? Many other GPS devises load the course based on location and it is their most current data.
I can understand how you would be upset. However, how many years did you have your device? With my SGXW, I don't need to hook it to a computer, I just need Wifi. There are also over 30k courses on mine, which will give you the front, middle and back data. If I want all the data, I just download it via wifi, it takes ten seconds. Most hotels have wifi, so it's no big deal if I go on a trip. Technology gets better over time, they do have a service to turn your old one in and get a discount on a new one.
They didn't delete the course from your device, you just don't have access to the courses because of your subscription status. Is that messed up, yeah I think it is and I would be upset as well.
Originally Posted by Daddio
It's not that big a deal to me either, but after playing extensive golf in groups with SkyCaddies, Golf Buddies and Garmins where there was never more than a yard or two difference in measurements, why would you pay a subscription? It doesn't make sense to me and that's before they changed their policies. To each their own though, not my money.
I think it depends on where you are. My buddies and I in NJ, our readings can differ by 10 to 15 yards at times. However, as I said before, my buddy that also has an SGXW, his and mine are always the same.
Originally Posted by FVSU73
I have a skycaddie and find it to be very helpful. But it only useful on bright days. On a cloudy day it is useless. It will not receive a signal at all. I talked to sky caddie about this and got some lame excuse about how GPS signals are hindered by clouds, etc. I say this is BS because my satellite radio work in all types of weather and so does my navigational GPS device. So, the sky caddie is wonderful and of good value on a clear day. Otherwise, it is just a good paper weight.
I haven't got to use mine on a cloudy day. I only used it four times before the season ended. But golfing with my buddy that has the SGXW too, he's never had an issue when I've played with him on cloudy/ rainy days. So like someone else said, maybe it's your unit or the area you live.
Originally Posted by grubby98
Go with a rangefinder. If its a blind shot, just walk until you can see where you want to go and shoot it and then shoot back to your ball. I was very interested in a GPS unit but refuse to pay a subscription and then don't want to waste time downloading courses that I may or may not play. Lasers are there and give you the yardage. The only thing I GPS would be good for is the layout of a course you have never played.
I just download my courses the night before or the day off, it really takes no time at all. But to each their own, I guess. I was going to buy a range finder first, but then though about the course I played the most and decided if I was going to have to walk up and shoot my distances and walk it off, I might as well just look for a marker and do the same, so that's why I decided on a GPS. However, I do want something for the driving range to shoot those flags, so I might end up caving and getting a range finder too.