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So i was hitting balls at the local golfshop and i was watching my swing speed on my 7 iron it was 93 average for over 10 swings.. but my shafts are a regular flex. The sign there says I should be in a Stiff or even X-Stiff?.... what do you guys think... most of the time my irons have a slight push on them when I hit. Thanks guys

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Driver      Callaway
 Razr Fit Xtreme 8.5* Extra Stiff

3 wood   Callaway X hot Stiff flex

Hybrid     Ping I20 3H 20* & 4H 23*
Irons       Ping  I20 5-PW

Wedges  Ping Tour Gorge 52 & 56 Callaway Mack daddy 60*

Putter     Scotty Cameron Monterey

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If youre pushing the ball then its more than likely the swing.

In the :ogio: Cart Bag :cleve: Launcher 9.5° Stiff :dunlop: 15° 3W Stiff :wilson_staff: D100 / 19 & 22° Hybrids Stiff :adams: CB3 Irons 4-GW Steel :adams: A7OS 54.5° SW :nike: 60/06 V Red LW :cobra: 35" Face Balanced Mallet Putter

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1st off nice avatar.. I'm a big Hawks fan...

I dont always push, sometimes it will be straight, i can hit the draw when I need....

But if i need a stiff or X-stiff in my driver and tried to use a regular flex.. the shaft is not gonna catch up till out in front of my lead foot.

I dont know.

Tools in the Ogio bag.
Driver      Callaway
 Razr Fit Xtreme 8.5* Extra Stiff

3 wood   Callaway X hot Stiff flex

Hybrid     Ping I20 3H 20* & 4H 23*
Irons       Ping  I20 5-PW

Wedges  Ping Tour Gorge 52 & 56 Callaway Mack daddy 60*

Putter     Scotty Cameron Monterey

Balls      Bridgestone B-330

Shoes          Skycaddie SGX

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Cause I'm guessing Ping already custom fit you???

In the :ogio: Cart Bag :cleve: Launcher 9.5° Stiff :dunlop: 15° 3W Stiff :wilson_staff: D100 / 19 & 22° Hybrids Stiff :adams: CB3 Irons 4-GW Steel :adams: A7OS 54.5° SW :nike: 60/06 V Red LW :cobra: 35" Face Balanced Mallet Putter

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Thanks buddy...GO HAWKS!!!!. You might try to demo the same irons in a stiff flex. My irons (Adams CB 3 4-GW are dynalight gold 300s) but evrything in my bag has been custom fit except my Walmart 3wood lol...ironically it's one of my best clubs...the Dunlop Goliath mid-firm flex cheapy but I stripe it all the time.

In the :ogio: Cart Bag :cleve: Launcher 9.5° Stiff :dunlop: 15° 3W Stiff :wilson_staff: D100 / 19 & 22° Hybrids Stiff :adams: CB3 Irons 4-GW Steel :adams: A7OS 54.5° SW :nike: 60/06 V Red LW :cobra: 35" Face Balanced Mallet Putter

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When i went to buy and get fitted for my Irons.. they didnt ask about the shaft.. measured my wrist to floor.. then put that board on the floor, had me swing about 20 times. I just noticed today.

Thanks Purple Drank

Tools in the Ogio bag.
Driver      Callaway
 Razr Fit Xtreme 8.5* Extra Stiff

3 wood   Callaway X hot Stiff flex

Hybrid     Ping I20 3H 20* & 4H 23*
Irons       Ping  I20 5-PW

Wedges  Ping Tour Gorge 52 & 56 Callaway Mack daddy 60*

Putter     Scotty Cameron Monterey

Balls      Bridgestone B-330

Shoes          Skycaddie SGX

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Yeah if your swing speed for a 7 iron is 93 mph then a regular flex is def the wrong flex for you.

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Wrong flex - but that's only part of the story in a shaft.

The wrong flex or weight will tend to make your ball flight and direction -- inconsistent.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

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Thanks guys.. I'm going to go and have a better look at my shafts..LOL no pun intended

Tools in the Ogio bag.
Driver      Callaway
 Razr Fit Xtreme 8.5* Extra Stiff

3 wood   Callaway X hot Stiff flex

Hybrid     Ping I20 3H 20* & 4H 23*
Irons       Ping  I20 5-PW

Wedges  Ping Tour Gorge 52 & 56 Callaway Mack daddy 60*

Putter     Scotty Cameron Monterey

Balls      Bridgestone B-330

Shoes          Skycaddie SGX

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Wrong flex - but that's only part of the story in a shaft.

The wrong flex or weight will tend to make your ball flight and direction -- inconsistent.

Yes it won't mean the club face "lags" behind the shaft too long causing an open face, it will just cause more dispersion and probably tend to balloon the ball.

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Yes it won't mean the club face "lags" behind the shaft too long causing an open face, it will just cause more dispersion and probably tend to balloon the ball.

Lag is why pros are pros and can get better distance than the average golfer. It's one key anyways...of course ball striking, clubhead speed and properly fitted equipment help as well.

In the :ogio: Cart Bag :cleve: Launcher 9.5° Stiff :dunlop: 15° 3W Stiff :wilson_staff: D100 / 19 & 22° Hybrids Stiff :adams: CB3 Irons 4-GW Steel :adams: A7OS 54.5° SW :nike: 60/06 V Red LW :cobra: 35" Face Balanced Mallet Putter

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Lag is why pros are pros and can get better distance than the average golfer. It's one key anyways...of course ball striking, clubhead speed and properly fitted equipment help as well.

You're talking about different things. mvmac is talking about the shaft flexing too much, you're talking about your wrists being bent. When people talk about lag, they're generally referring to the latter definition, which is why Mike put "lag" in quotes in his post.

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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You're talking about different things. mvmac is talking about the shaft flexing too much, you're talking about your wrists being bent. When people talk about lag, they're generally referring to the latter definition, which is why Mike put "lag" in quotes in his post.

Actually I was referring to the club head trailing the hands on the downsing coupled with a constant inreasing downswing. Didn't want to get jumped again so I left it at that but I see I was wrong. Sorry

In the :ogio: Cart Bag :cleve: Launcher 9.5° Stiff :dunlop: 15° 3W Stiff :wilson_staff: D100 / 19 & 22° Hybrids Stiff :adams: CB3 Irons 4-GW Steel :adams: A7OS 54.5° SW :nike: 60/06 V Red LW :cobra: 35" Face Balanced Mallet Putter

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A combination of shaft flex and kick point is pretty important to get the most distance out of any golf swing.

In the :ogio: Cart Bag :cleve: Launcher 9.5° Stiff :dunlop: 15° 3W Stiff :wilson_staff: D100 / 19 & 22° Hybrids Stiff :adams: CB3 Irons 4-GW Steel :adams: A7OS 54.5° SW :nike: 60/06 V Red LW :cobra: 35" Face Balanced Mallet Putter

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Actually I was referring to the club head trailing the hands on the downsing coupled with a constant inreasing downswing. Didn't want to get jumped again so I left it at that but I see I was wrong. Sorry

I got the impression when the OP said this that he might have been thinking the shaft not "being able to catch up" would leave the face open.  So that's where my post cam from.

But if i need a stiff or X-stiff in my driver and tried to use a regular flex.. the shaft is not gonna catch up till out in front of my lead foot.

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Yes i was meaning that.... or at least i thought that.

Tools in the Ogio bag.
Driver      Callaway
 Razr Fit Xtreme 8.5* Extra Stiff

3 wood   Callaway X hot Stiff flex

Hybrid     Ping I20 3H 20* & 4H 23*
Irons       Ping  I20 5-PW

Wedges  Ping Tour Gorge 52 & 56 Callaway Mack daddy 60*

Putter     Scotty Cameron Monterey

Balls      Bridgestone B-330

Shoes          Skycaddie SGX

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Thanks for the help Mike...

I just started working at a Golf Store...Yeah its great...LOL

But today i got on the simulator and was trying out Irons. I was hitting the titliest 714 CB..great club, feels great.

I also tried out the Mizuno MP-64 in a Extra Stiff ..and my ball flight was much better.. straighter, seemed like I had more control, launch angle was good, and not a ton of spin.

Also hit the Callaway Apex irons, but would have liked a X stiff... but so far those were the best Irons i hit.

Just wanted to say thanks to the guys who posted, and also My shafts in my Pings are a Stiff flex, I looked and made sure.

Tools in the Ogio bag.
Driver      Callaway
 Razr Fit Xtreme 8.5* Extra Stiff

3 wood   Callaway X hot Stiff flex

Hybrid     Ping I20 3H 20* & 4H 23*
Irons       Ping  I20 5-PW

Wedges  Ping Tour Gorge 52 & 56 Callaway Mack daddy 60*

Putter     Scotty Cameron Monterey

Balls      Bridgestone B-330

Shoes          Skycaddie SGX

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A combination of shaft flex and kick point is pretty important to get the most distance out of any golf swing.

Shaft flex is more important; kick point is a fine-tuning issue.

For flex, you need to figure in relative shaft flex, and shaft static weight.

Relative shaft flex controls for the fact that some shafts with same rating - R or S - are more flexible than others. You can compare shafts across models using Frequency Coefficient Matching (FCM).

Shaft

Flex

FCM

Raw Wt.

Dynamic Gold

S300

5.8

130 gr.

Project X

6.0

6.5

120 gr.

So, the FCM for PX "stiff" is .7 a flex stiffer than the DG S300. But, the DG S300 has greater static weight, which will tend to the lessen the gap in dynamic flex.

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