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Just curious, seems like some experienced golfers here.  I looked back at some old threads seems like there's a wide variety of opinions.  I've been playing with the same guys for the past several seasons.  We've all turned the corner on golf together, but half the group really didn't learn basic rules or etiquette.  Its been interesting.  I think my regular group breaks rules and etiquette on almost every hole.

I care about rules and proper etiquette.  Rules obviously because there are so many possible and reasonable penalties that are part of the game.  Etiquette is different.  The items relating to consideration of other players is a golden rule thing.  EG I don't want three guys mingling behind me on my line on every teestroke, so I just don't do it.  I never say anything, but just try to set an example by taking a position near the tee where I'm off the players line, but where I can spot his ball in flight.  In my regular group, I'm the only one who seems to care about this.  Since my playing partners are oblivious to this, I'm used to having them back there "spotting" for me.  After years of my three man gallery, I don't really care if people are standing quietly behind me, but I don't do it, because thats what USGA recommends, and I don't need to stand in a players line.  Plus, on the putting surface this seems like cheating.

Then there's ready golf, which I know about but routinely ignore.  When playing with new partners I always surrender the box to the lowest score.  In my regular group, I only ever yield to a respectable score.  If we all hack it up, my group doesn't care who tees off first.  We usually walk and have standing agreement to play ready.

My downfall on etiquette is my phone.  Most of the time my phone is on and ringer can sometimes be heard.  If it rings in earshot of someones swing, which is infrequent during my normal friday playing time, I always offer a free replay.  I know this is sort of a breach, but I need to hear my phone.  How bad is it to leave your ringer on?  What do you guys do with your phone?

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My downfall on etiquette is my phone.  Most of the time my phone is on and ringer can sometimes be heard.  If it rings in earshot of someones swing, which is infrequent during my normal friday playing time, I always offer a free replay.  I know this is sort of a breach, but I need to hear my phone.  How bad is it to leave your ringer on?  What do you guys do with your phone?

I get pretty annoyed when someone in my group cant put the phone down when it is their turn to hit - if the phone is that important, maybe you should not be on the course. (I have stopped playing with certain friends that can not put it down)

Mine is left on silent in my bag and I may check it if I am waiting on the group in front of me. There is a zero percent chance that I am going to call anyone back, but if something business wise can be answered with a short text, I will reply.

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I never "play" with my phone on the course but I need to be available for emergency, mine was on silent in the bag a few times and the result was worse than one bad stroke.

Any forms of etiquette you ignore?

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Depends on the group. Primarily our groups don't care about "honors" on the next tee. Also we don't play farthest out plays first. If someone is looking for their ball, then go ahead an hit.

Besides that, its strict rules of golf for me! :dance:

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I don't think there are any forms of etiquette that I "ignore" (that I know about) as long as proper etiquette also means adjusting to what the people in my group want to do. If I notice that winning a hole and being first to tee off is important to somebody I make sure I wait and let them go first. If I notice that nobody cares I certainly don't either. Probably the thing that bugs me the most is when someone has a ball ahead of mine and goes to their ball acting as if I don't exist and I can't even hit my shot because they are in the way. I understand that many people don't have my lifestyle so unless it gets ridiculous I don't mind phones but mine is always off on the golf course. I think I've gotten about 3 calls in the last 5 years so the odds are that I don't need it anyway. Bugs my wife but she gets over it.
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If I'm wearing dark shorts, a dark shirt and dark golf shoes wearing white socks looks ridiculous so I'd ignore the rule like the rebel I am. lol

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Depends on the group. Primarily our groups don't care about "honors" on the next tee. Also we don't play farthest out plays first. If someone is looking for their ball, then go ahead an hit.

Besides that, its strict rules of golf for me!

Exactly, speed of play takes priority, hit your ball first and then help look for your partners, people don't realize how much time can be saved by just doing that.

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my phone is always on. its always on silent and check it for emails mainly. I only ever call people back if its really urgent, most of my customers know to email or text me

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I don't always stay behind the person w/ball furthest back in play - I walk ahead, but well out of sight and keep an eye out when person is about hit. Saves a lot of time, especially when you're not sure where your ball is, more time to look.

People standing close is the worst. It's okay if they're behind me and I can't see them, but right in front or to my right, I hate that - I let them know about it as tactfully as I can, but inside it really annoys me.

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I'm fortunate, (or unfortunate as some might say) to play with a pretty raucous group of guys.  They talk, move  around, drink beer and enjoy themselves when we play.  That stuff is all fine and good by me because they also RESPECT the game and the course which is more important to me.

We play by the rules, don't beat up the course, respect each other on the greens and tee boxes when things count and generally leave the course in better shape than we found it most of the time.

Aspects of golf etiquette that so many players overlook are:  taking six practice swings taking divots out the fairway and NOT replacing them; ripping ball marks on greens and NOT fixing them; tearing up the greens with their spikes because they can't pick up their feet while walking; break ball washers; litter the golf course with bud light cans; don't rake traps after use; general sense of 'entitlement' because the PAID to play.

Tip for original poster: Always be on your best behavior when playing with new people.  See how strictly they adhere to golf course etiquette and behave accordingly.  I'm sure you'll find that by and large, you'll be the only one replacing divots, fixing ball marks on greens or asking who has 'honors' on the tee box.  Not a lot of 'manners' going on anywhere anymore. Golf courses included.

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I'm fortunate, (or unfortunate as some might say) to play with a pretty raucous group of guys.  They talk, move  around, drink beer and enjoy themselves when we play.  That stuff is all fine and good by me because they also RESPECT the game and the course which is more important to me.

We play by the rules, don't beat up the course, respect each other on the greens and tee boxes when things count and generally leave the course in better shape than we found it most of the time.

Aspects of golf etiquette that so many players overlook are:  taking six practice swings taking divots out the fairway and NOT replacing them; ripping ball marks on greens and NOT fixing them; tearing up the greens with their spikes because they can't pick up their feet while walking; break ball washers; litter the golf course with bud light cans; don't rake traps after use; general sense of 'entitlement' because the PAID to play.

Tip for original poster: Always be on your best behavior when playing with new people.  See how strictly they adhere to golf course etiquette and behave accordingly.  I'm sure you'll find that by and large, you'll be the only one replacing divots, fixing ball marks on greens or asking who has 'honors' on the tee box.  Not a lot of 'manners' going on anywhere anymore. Golf courses included.

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I'd also add...people that bet, and have a 10" putt that they stand over for 5 mins. when it should be a gimme, slow rounds because of stuff like this.

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Id say the most often golf etiquette me n my golfing buddies ignore is the honors on the tee box as well. We usually play a fast paced round mainly because were playin golf when were supposed to be working
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Depends on the group. Primarily our groups don't care about "honors" on the next tee. Also we don't play farthest out plays first. If someone is looking for their ball, then go ahead an hit.

Besides that, its strict rules of golf for me!

Same here.

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I usually don't remove my hat when I shake hands on the 18th green.


I don't usually where a hat, but yes I see quite a few times players do not remove theirs at the conclusion of play, and some cases do not shake hands either.To me it doesn't really bother me, I see as an older tradition from a time when gentleman wore hats all the time.

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My group plays "ready golf" to expedite the round and will give putts inside the leather.  But never in a tournament.   There is an unwritten rule for the group that phones are turned off unless there is a good reason not to and then the ringer must be turned off and conversations are held "out of range" of players.

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My downfall on etiquette is my phone.  Most of the time my phone is on and ringer can sometimes be heard.  If it rings in earshot of someones swing, which is infrequent during my normal friday playing time, I always offer a free replay.  I know this is sort of a breach, but I need to hear my phone.  How bad is it to leave your ringer on?  What do you guys do with your phone?

I get pretty annoyed when someone in my group cant put the phone down when it is their turn to hit - if the phone is that important, maybe you should not be on the course. (I have stopped playing with certain friends that can not put it down)

Mine is left on silent in my bag and I may check it if I am waiting on the group in front of me. There is a zero percent chance that I am going to call anyone back, but if something business wise can be answered with a short text, I will reply.

If the phone isn't in vibrate mode then it's a guaranteed breach of etiquette, and just plain rude.  I don't care what your excuse is.  If you can't do that and keep any communications to an absolute minimum, then you and I won't be playing together again, period.  I have a very low tolerance for phones on the golf course. This is a major pet peeve for me.

Depends on the group. Primarily our groups don't care about "honors" on the next tee. Also we don't play farthest out plays first. If someone is looking for their ball, then go ahead an hit.

Besides that, its strict rules of golf for me!

Honor is an actual rule, not etiquette.  In stroke play it's not relevant any more as long as you aren't interfering with someone else who is already to play.  Ready golf is a good thing, but you still need to be aware of what is happening around you.  In match play who is away and honor on the tee must be observed.

I don't always stay behind the person w/ball furthest back in play - I walk ahead, but well out of sight and keep an eye out when person is about hit. Saves a lot of time, especially when you're not sure where your ball is, more time to look.

The key here again is in not interfering with someone else who is ready to hit.  Basically, etiquette is a simple matter of respect for the players around you and for the course and for the game in general.  As long as your actions don't cause problems for another player, then you aren't really breaching etiquette.

This can be different for different groups or players.  I've played with guys who didn't really care what you did as long as you let them swing fairly, and I've played with guys who were complete anal nutbags.  Of the two, I'd rather play with the loose group, even if that means that occasionally they cross the line.  They are generally a lot more fun.

To quote Billy Joel, "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints - the sinners are much more fun."

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