Does High hands (2 Plane Swing ) give you a distance advantage?

**EverythingGolf** · December 12, 2013

I have read a few articles and have seen some videos claiming that a 2 plane swing has a distance advantage over a 1 plane swing. Does anyone know if this is true or what is your opinion on this.

**Pretzel** · December 13, 2013

Do you mean a swing where your hands end up higher than your shoulder (thus having a different arm plane as opposed to your shoulder plane) to be a "hands high two plane" swing? If so, I would personally disagree with you on your definition of a two plane swing in that most pros with a swing that has higher hands (Adam Scott is a good example of a steeper arm angle than shoulder angle) still only use one plane throughout the swing.

On the contrary, are you talking about a swing (like Jim Furyk's) that has a different swing plane for the backswing and downswing where the hands end up nearly above his head at the top?

**MS256** · December 13, 2013

Do you mean a swing where your hands end up higher than your shoulder (thus having a different arm plane as opposed to your shoulder plane) to be a "hands high two plane" swing? If so, I would personally disagree with you on your definition of a two plane swing in that most pros with a swing that has higher hands (Adam Scott is a good example of a steeper arm angle than shoulder angle) still only use one plane throughout the swing.

On the contrary, are you talking about a swing (like Jim Furyk's) that has a different swing plane for the backswing and downswing where the hands end up nearly above his head at the top?

Part of the problem with talking about "planes" is that seldom are people on the same page. I happen to think of the plane like this guy describes. I assume you think of the plane as something else.

**Ernest Jones** · December 13, 2013

Seems to me that a 2 plane (using your definition) gets higher at the top but not as deep whereas a 1 plane doesn't get as high but gets a lot deeper so I suspect it all evens out in terms of arc radius and how much speed is created.

**mvmac** · December 14, 2013

Do you mean a swing where your hands end up higher than your shoulder (thus having a different arm plane as opposed to your shoulder plane) to be a "hands high two plane" swing? If so, I would personally disagree with you on your definition of a two plane swing in that most pros with a swing that has higher hands (Adam Scott is a good example of a steeper arm angle than shoulder angle) still only use one plane throughout the swing.
On the contrary, are you talking about a swing (like Jim Furyk's) that has a different swing plane for the backswing and downswing where the hands end up nearly above his head at the top?

Yeah that's the Hardy definition of a one and two plane swing. One plane has the left arm match the shoulders and two plane is above the shoulders. One plane is not trying to swing on the same "plane" on the backswing and downswing, that's basically impossible to do and play decent golf.

I have read a few articles and have seen some videos claiming that a 2 plane swing has a distance advantage over a 1 plane swing. Does anyone know if this is true or what is your opinion on this.

I would say there are a lot more things golfers should focus on to improve their distance than worrying about their left arm plane for power. The position of the left arm is just a result of stuff that comes before it, it can be above the shoulders or matching the shoulders and result in a very efficient swing. Some golfers have a high left arm and hit it short because the pivot pieces are crappy and some guys that bomb it have a high left arm because they "stretch" their right side a lot.

**Pretzel** · December 14, 2013

Yeah that's the Hardy definition of a one and two plane swing. One plane has the left arm match the shoulders and two plane is above the shoulders. One plane is not trying to swing on the same "plane" on the backswing and downswing, that's basically impossible to do and play decent golf.

Oh, ok. I stand corrected then and apologize for any confusion I may have created.

**mvmac** · December 14, 2013

Oh, ok. I stand corrected then and apologize for any confusion I may have created.

No worries, I just assumed it was the Hardy one plane lingo he was using.

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