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  1. 1. What material of shaft do you prefer in your irons?

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Hello wonderful people of The Sand Trap community. Tonight I have a question regarding shafts in my irons. I have been considering getting a new set of irons and recently posted a thread (New irons for a teen) regarding iron choices. Though I plan to get custom fit I really don't know where to start. I like a heavier shaft and currently use Dynamic Gold S300 shafts which I would not mind having a bit heavier shaft than that. I swing my driver around 103-105 MPH and as I have been working on core strength and overall strength my swing speed has been increasing. I am not against the idea of graphite shafts but I do want something that feels similar to a steel shaft. I know that Project X, KBS, Dynamic Gold, Nippon and Aerotech all make a high quality iron shaft but I would love to hear what you guys prefer and what you would recommend for me. Anything helps and I wish you all a Bogey-free new year :-) .

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2

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If your getting fit for your new irons, the club fitter will find the best shafts for you. Keep in mind, everyone is different,

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I have the Aerotech Players Spec Stiff(flowed) in both my TM MB's and TM RBZ Tour sets...I don't see myself going back to steel with current shaft technology...

What is the weight on those shafts?

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2

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I have the Aerotech Players Spec Stiff(flowed) in both my TM MB's and TM RBZ Tour sets...I don't see myself going back to steel with current shaft technology...

your soooo right!

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I have the Aerotech Players Spec Stiff(flowed) in both my TM MB's and TM RBZ Tour sets...I don't see myself going back to steel with current shaft technology...

What is the weight on those shafts?

I don't see myself going to graphite, until I can't swing steel anymore, on any club.

Every club in my bag has a nice heavy and sturdy steel shaft in it.

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TM White Smoke Big Fontana; Pro-V1
TM Rac 60 TT WS, MD2 56
Ping i20 irons U-4, CFS300
Callaway XR16 9 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S
Callaway XR16 3W 15 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S, X2Hot Pro 20 degrees S

"I'm hitting the woods just great, but I'm having a terrible time getting out of them." ~Harry Toscano

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What is the weight on those shafts?

Players Spec AMi99 (3i) Stiff 40" 96gr 2.4 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (4i) Stiff 39.5" 98gr 2.3 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (5i) Stiff 39" 100gr 2.2 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (6i) Stiff 38.5" 102gr 2.2 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (7i) Stiff 38" 104gr 2.1 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (8i) Stiff 37.5" 106gr 2.1 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (9i) Stiff 37" 108gr 2.0 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid
Players Spec AMi99 (PW) Stiff 36.5" 110gr 2.0 .355" .600" Taper High-Mid

The frequency of each shaft changes with the weight as well(cpm's  and weights are much tighter with the Players Specs...I've played kbs tours, dgs300 and x100's, project x's flighted and non and have found the feel and consistency from club to club with the aerotech product to be outstanding...the biggest draw back to the Players Spec vs. i95 is cost but I liked then so much(because they fit me) and bought them again to put in my RBZ tours

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Originally Posted by Lihu

I don't see myself going to graphite, until I can't swing steel anymore, on any club.

Every club in my bag has a nice heavy and sturdy steel shaft in it.

not in your woods either?

Nope, even the woods and hybrids have steel shafts.

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TM White Smoke Big Fontana; Pro-V1
TM Rac 60 TT WS, MD2 56
Ping i20 irons U-4, CFS300
Callaway XR16 9 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S
Callaway XR16 3W 15 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S, X2Hot Pro 20 degrees S

"I'm hitting the woods just great, but I'm having a terrible time getting out of them." ~Harry Toscano

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[QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/71680/iron-shafts#post_933303"]   Nope, even the woods and hybrids have steel shafts. [/QUOTE] what do you have in your driver and 3 wood? Is your driver 43"?

46" overall driver, 43" overall 3W. Dynamic gold steel wood shaft. Just changed it. Much more accurate and consistent, now. Didn't really lose distance, might have even gained some.

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TM White Smoke Big Fontana; Pro-V1
TM Rac 60 TT WS, MD2 56
Ping i20 irons U-4, CFS300
Callaway XR16 9 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S
Callaway XR16 3W 15 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S, X2Hot Pro 20 degrees S

"I'm hitting the woods just great, but I'm having a terrible time getting out of them." ~Harry Toscano

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did you counter weight your driver or are you ok with the higher swing weight?


I need the added swing weight to keep my swing under control. I did a series of tests using an accelerometer, and found that the added mass reduces a jerky motion in my swing. Maybe, if (or when) I get better I can take advantage of a lighter shaft.

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TM White Smoke Big Fontana; Pro-V1
TM Rac 60 TT WS, MD2 56
Ping i20 irons U-4, CFS300
Callaway XR16 9 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S
Callaway XR16 3W 15 degree Fujikura Speeder 565 S, X2Hot Pro 20 degrees S

"I'm hitting the woods just great, but I'm having a terrible time getting out of them." ~Harry Toscano

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Hello wonderful people of The Sand Trap community. Tonight I have a question regarding shafts in my irons. I have been considering getting a new set of irons and recently posted a thread (New irons for a teen) regarding iron choices. Though I plan to get custom fit I really don't know where to start. I like a heavier shaft and currently use Dynamic Gold S300 shafts which I would not mind having a bit heavier shaft than that. I swing my driver around 103-105 MPH and as I have been working on core strength and overall strength my swing speed has been increasing. I am not against the idea of graphite shafts but I do want something that feels similar to a steel shaft. I know that Project X, KBS, Dynamic Gold, Nippon and Aerotech all make a high quality iron shaft but I would love to hear what you guys prefer and what you would recommend for me. Anything helps and I wish you all a Bogey-free new year .

@SamGray ,

Let the fitter help you.  I assume you are still growing (from your Avatar).  The fitter may opt for a heavier shaft because you will be getting stronger.  I have Nippon 950GH stiff shafts in my irons, but I am also 53 and have a driver swing speed around 90-93.  The fitter should be looking at your tempo as well.  They should have you try different shafts to see the effect of the changes during the fitting.  Take your time and have fun.

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Bring that you're growing, you might discuss softstepping with your club fitter. In softstepping, you put a shaft tipped for 2i in your 3i, tipped for 3i in your 4i, etc., and then butt trim for length. You are extending the length of the flexible tip section of the club. This softens the flex about 1/3 a flex.

If you softstepped an S300, which has an FCM of 5.8, you would end up with an FCM of 5.5. Later on, as you get stronger, you could undo the softstepping to increase the flex back to FCM = 5.8. You would need to return the 3i-tipped shaft to the 3i, the 4i to the 4i, etc. You would extend each shaft 1/2" to get the shaft back to proper length for each club.

You could reverse the softstepping during the winter when you get your irons regripped. Undoing the softstepping would cost $10 to $15 a club, basically the cost of reshaft labor.

Most of all, try out different shafts with your fitter. Remember to consider the interplay of weight and relative flex. Use the frequent coefficient matching (FCM) flex ratings to compare flexes across different manufacturers.

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Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
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Has anyone tried the Steelfibers from Aerotech?

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2

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