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In general, does coming in shallower mean higher, more penetrating ball flight?


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By shallower, my question encompasses several "interpretations", I mean angle of attack and swing plane if that makes sense.

And vice-versa for steep?

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Higher yes, more penetrating...how do you mean?  Many people equate more penetrating with lower.  But I find better spin and carry, with a more shallow AOA that I would say is more penetrating as far as not getting knocked down by the wind.

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Higher yes, more penetrating...how do you mean?  Many people equate more penetrating with lower.  But I find better spin and carry, with a more shallow AOA that I would say is more penetrating as far as not getting knocked down by the wind.

More penetrating is a bad choice of words, more distance with less effort is the gist I was going for.

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More penetrating is a bad choice of words, more distance with less effort is the gist I was going for.

That is exactly it.

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Given the same dynamic or delivered loft, a shallower AoA will result in higher ball speed and lower spin loft (i.e. more deformation, less spin) than a steeper AoA.

But the same dynamic loft is rarely delivered in those two cases, so…

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Given the same dynamic or delivered loft, a shallower AoA will result in higher ball speed and lower spin loft (i.e. more deformation, less spin) than a steeper AoA.

But the same dynamic loft is rarely delivered in those two cases, so…

That does make sense.  I would assume though that a steeper AOA with the same lofted club decreasing the dynamic loft would produce a bit less spin though?  Maybe it is negligible over a few degrees.

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More penetrating is a bad choice of words, more distance with less effort is the gist I was going for.

"Penetrating" could also mean "not ballooning" then generally yes, shallow AoA would tend to promote that.

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That does make sense.  I would assume though that a steeper AOA with the same lofted club decreasing the dynamic loft would produce a bit less spin though?  Maybe it is negligible over a few degrees.

If all else is equal (ball type, clubhead speed, contact location, etc.), spin loft* is proportional to spin. More spin loft*, more spin.

* For spin lots of ~ 45° or less.

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