Well that was unexpected. Here's what I said, in two parts.
Originally Posted by iacas
Here's the pessimistic way of looking at that: your 56 could have just been all of your bad holes in a round coming together, and the 43 being the good holes coming together, rather than being distributed throughout the round. Play enough and that happens now and then. At the end of the day it's a 99.
You shot a 99. And a 100/99/97 before that, IIRC.
What I was saying is that I see stuff like this all the time - say someone averages 90, which is 45 per nine holes. Sometimes, though, their "good holes" come in a clump of nine or so holes and they shoot 40. Then they "revert to the mean" and shoot 50 on the other nine holes. Sometimes that nine is the front. Sometimes it's the back.
These golfers often think "they had it!" for nine holes (when they shot 40). The truth is, they're still a 90 shooting golfer… they just randomly had their good holes all on one side of the golf course.
Instead of going 4 5 6 4 5 6 4 5 6 4 5 6 4 5 6 4 5 6 they will go 6 6 5 6 6 5 6 6 5 5 4 4 5 4 4 5 4 4 and think they "had it for nine holes!" In a way they did… but viewed another way, they just randomly got a bunch of their better scores in a row. Throw 18 coins in the air enough times and they'll all land heads up (or tails up) eventually. It's bound to happen. Hell, I once went 31/41 to shoot even par. Guys on the PGA Tour sometimes shoot 29/39. It happens.
So the first part of my post said that. It's important to be somewhat pessimistic when you're reaching for goals because it keeps you grounded. Staying grounded allows you to celebrate the actual successes when you achieve them. If you think "I've got it!" that's when golf reaches up and CRUSHES you.
Heck, you shot 87 in a practice round (I learned that reading posts you made after mine) and then shot 100 or 99 or 97 or whatever in your tournament, right? You said yourself (IIRC) that you felt good, and golf reached up and crushed you. Staying practical and even a little pessimistic is a good way to avoid falling into the trap of thinking you've got it. Of thinking that you're better than you are. And that's important to actually make progress.
Originally Posted by iacas
Your club doesn't go straight back. It goes back, up, and in.
That's just good (and correct) information. Not much more to say about that.
Originally Posted by iacas
Scratch this year when you're not breaking 95 is going to be difficult - no sense making it more so with a bunch of bad information.
This is the part you seem to have most drastically misread or misunderstood. You shot 97 (or 99, or 100… IIRC that was you, right?). Then you shot 99. So here's simply how I meant it: "you're not breaking 95" right now. I literally meant right now. It may surprise you, but I don't keep track of what every member of the site shoots every time they play. I - like most people - notice the "noticeable" scores (good or bad), and I know you're the guy who's set a goal to get to scratch this year. So have that knowledge, a score of 87 simply doesn't register. It's not "noticeable." But a guy who wants to get to scratch shoots a pair of rounds in the high 90s, that is noticeable. That does stand out. just as a guy who says he's a 12 would stand out if he shoots 70.
If Tristan - a good guy like myself - said to you on the 18th tee "you're not breaking 95" would you be able to say otherwise? It's a statement of fact. I did not say you haven't broken 95. I said you're "not." It's framed in the present tense.
I was talking about the last two rounds, because those are the only rounds I remember. I remember only those rounds because they're the only ones that have stood out. They were noticeable to me.
Additionally, the MAIN point in that sentence was to urge you to start being very selective about the information you gather. "Club going straight back" isn't accurate information. It may work for you as a feel (I can relate - Rickie Fowler backswings feel like that to some people), but again my statement there was as a follow up to support the previous sentence, and to support the prior paragraph as well by trying to keep you from getting in too much despair.
Goals are good, but unrealistic goals lead to people crashing and getting burnt out and hating a game that's supposed to be fun.
I'm respected on this site because I have good information and care about people getting better at golf. It's troubling to me and deeply disappointing that you've seen fit to call me a liar, to say that I've attacked you, been rude, and several other things. Those could not be farther from the truth, and I should think that the many people who told you otherwise are a good testament to that.
I can tell you that I have a great deal in common and feel a kinship with anyone who is even remotely as addicted to the game as I am, and I get tremendous joy and satisfaction out of helping people on the site and in real life. Sometimes it requires some tough love, and sometimes it takes understanding the fact that I don't, for example, keep track of everyone's scores in my head.
I was looking forward to meeting you at the SoCal outing. I think Mike and I can help you, in a few minutes, on the range. I still hope you plan to come.