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My Swing (David in FL)

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I've been Playing Golf for:​    45 years

My current handicap index or average score is:     5.5

My typical ball flight is:     Draw irons and hybrids / Fade driver

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is:     Pull irons / Push driver

 

No DTL because I was just warming up prior to playing and had very little time.  I'll try to be a little more thorough next time.

 

6-iron:

 

 


 

Videos:

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Hey Grampa, your video is set to private. :w00t:

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Damn technology!

 

Try again and let me know if I fixed it.....

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Hey Grampa, your video is set to private. d4_w00t.gif
Lol ... It works fine David. After how long it took for us to get you to post this, I was expecting something a lot more Charles Barkley esque. This looks solid, consistent and boring. Color me disappointed. ;)
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@David in FL and @Golfingdad , it's like The Member of the Year club in here!

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1) Flare the front foot more

2) Left shoulder should drop more towards the ball in the backswing. You get very flat shoulder turn. Left hip goes up and back, not around. 

 

 

 

Maybe in the future to help not take your club back so far inside. Though fixing the shoulder pitch, and the weight forward will help

 

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It's better than you think, and at the same time one of the worst 5 handicap swings I've ever seen. :-D

 

You need to feel a big old combination of STRETCHING out the right side of your body, and BENDING the left side of your body. Your left shoulder will probably feel like it's going straight down towards the golf ball. It will also probably feel like your head is going down and forward a good 12 inches or so.

 

http://purestrike5sk.com/videos.php

 

Definition:

 

 

Do this in a mirror at home:

 

 

 

 

Two things to note:

  • Prioritize (Key #1 only for now - it will make the other Keys better)
  • Realize that there are lots of feelings and things out there, but if they're Key #1 things, they're just different feelings or ways to try to promote the same thing. Some might click with you, some might not.

 

A third bonus thing: if you want to do nothing until late January, when you work with Dave, that's fine too. You don't want to have a lot of thoughts in your head going into that sort of thing, because he'll just ask you to clear them out and just make your swing anyway.

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It's better than you think, and at the same time one of the worst 5 handicap swings I've ever seen. :-D

 

You need to feel a big old combination of STRETCHING out the right side of your body, and BENDING the left side of your body. Your left shoulder will probably feel like it's going straight down towards the golf ball. It will also probably feel like your head is going down and forward a good 12 inches or so.

 

 

Two things to note:

  • Prioritize (Key #1 only for now - it will make the other Keys better)
  • Realize that there are lots of feelings and things out there, but if they're Key #1 things, they're just different feelings or ways to try to promote the same thing. Some might click with you, some might not.

 

Only one of the worst?  There's hope!

 

The problem (well, one of them) I have is an extremely limited range of motion in my neck.  I'm arthritic and have had cervical surgery.  My rotational range of motion is only about 50 degrees each way which really limits my ability to get a full turn.  It looks like I've developed this big 'old sway thing to accommodate that and compensate by somehow getting back to the ball by impact.....though God only knows how.

 

It's all feel to me, so the "it should feel like this" is exactly what I need to hear.  Thanks.

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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
 

The problem (well, one of them) I have is an extremely limited range of motion in my neck.  I'm arthritic and have had cervical surgery.  My rotational range of motion is only about 50 degrees each way which really limits my ability to get a full turn.  It looks like I've developed this big 'old sway thing to accommodate that and compensate by somehow getting back to the ball by impact.....though God only knows how.

 

It's all feel to me, so the "it should feel like this" is exactly what I need to hear.  Thanks.


Just make sure you read the red text at the end, too.

 

And 50° is a little limiting but it's not terrible. The PLANE of your shoulders will change, not how much they rotate.

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@David in FL ,

 

For range of motion, do you do any daily stretching?  There are exercises and stretches that can help compensate for the limited range of motion in your neck.  By improving other areas, you can get around this limiter.  I recommend a couple of books.

 

Joey D's Book

 

http://thesandtrap.com/products/fix-your-body-fix-your-swing-the-revolutionary-biomechanics-workout-program-used-by-tour-pros

 

And Roger Frederick's.  You can skip the swing part of this book.

 

http://thesandtrap.com/products/roger-fredericks-secrets-of-golf-instruction-flexibility-your-guide-to-mastering-golf-s-true-fundamentals.

 

Some of the swing issues, like head movement, can be caused by the limited range of motion.

 

The improvement will take time, as in months.  But if you keep up a routine, it will really help.  It took me six to nine month for my shoulder and I still have a ways to go.

 

Best of luck.

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@David in FL ,

 

For range of motion, do you do any daily stretching?  There are exercises and stretches that can help compensate for the limited range of motion in your neck.  By improving other areas, you can get around this limiter.  I recommend a couple of books.

 

Joey D's Book

 

http://thesandtrap.com/products/fix-your-body-fix-your-swing-the-revolutionary-biomechanics-workout-program-used-by-tour-pros

 

And Roger Frederick's.  You can skip the swing part of this book.

 

http://thesandtrap.com/products/roger-fredericks-secrets-of-golf-instruction-flexibility-your-guide-to-mastering-golf-s-true-fundamentals.

 

Some of the swing issues, like head movement, can be caused by the limited range of motion.

 

The improvement will take time, as in months.  But if you keep up a routine, it will really help.  It took me six to nine month for my shoulder and I still have a ways to go.

 

Best of luck.

 

You're absolutely right.  I actually went through 8 weeks of PT earlier this year and continue with twice daily exercises for neck and lower back.  Prior to PT my range of motion was in the 42* range, so it's definitely helping!

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Two things to note:

  • Prioritize (Key #1 only for now - it will make the other Keys better)
  • Realize that there are lots of feelings and things out there, but if they're Key #1 things, they're just different feelings or ways to try to promote the same thing. Some might click with you, some might not.

 

 

Obviously agree ;-) 

 

A lot of the work you do with feels is easily done at home, like Erik said, do that drill in a mirror.  Can also put a piece of tape on your head in the mirror or even place the tape on your sternum and take your left shoulder to there.  One feel or image is that your shoulders/hips will be working more like a teeter totter, left dow, right up.

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Thanks for doing this David.  Glad you posted.  I know another single digit player with a swing not that dissimilar to yours.   He moves off the ball quite a bit.  We play a few times a year and yeah, he often beats me, including yesterday on the simulator.  It is great that you are going to work with Dave later this month.  That will be awesome.  I won't comment on the swing, just want to say thanks for posting.  If anyone is wondering how David is a 5, just watch the ball and notice David's clean contact and the sound at impact.  Respect.

post #14 of 97

It looks a bit better now @David in FL. As of about 30 minutes ago, I mean. :-) 

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I just spent a half hour working with @david_wedzik, with @iacas, @mvmac, and oh yeah, another 20 teaching pros watching on! g2_eek.gif It was a demo that Dave was giving on instruction techniques, and I was the guinea pig student. @Stretch is in the hot seat tomorrow.

Actually a lot less nerve-wracking than you might think, due entirely to Dave's patience and easy-going demeanor. Some pics (maybe even video) from Dave to follow, but we only worked on one thing, to get my shoulders and hips turning down and up much more, rather than flat. All to keep me on plane better and to avoid the over-the-top pull I struggle with.

Instant fix? Hell no, I'm not a good enough student for that, but within a handful of swings, even I could see the improvements in my swing. Dave, Erik, and Mike will be happy to know that I spent another hour on the range afterward doing nothing but little 50% punch shots trying to get used to the completely different feel.

Overall, I gained some real insight today, and had fun doing it.

Thanks guys. c2_beer.gif
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