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post #19 of 53
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What i've noticed, and maybe this is just me, but I stayed up and watched the first round of Dubai tourney last night and he appears never to be able to hit a draw.

I don't like the wording of this.  I completely agree that all he seems to be attempting is cuts.  But that doesn't mean he's unable to hit a draw, it simply means he's CHOOSING to hit cuts.  Why?  I don't know.

 

We can't possibly know if he's able to hit a draw if he never attempts one.  He's a smart guy, so I assume he has his reasons.

Yeah but likewise if he can't hit a draw at the moment he'll never attempt one. lol

At the end of the day whether he can/can't or whether it's a choice will never be known until he does hit/attempt one.

I do find it hard to believe that he's unable to to though; more likely is as golfingdad said he's choosing not to whether through course management, injury he doesn't want to aggravate or something else.

post #20 of 53
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

I don't like the wording of this.  I completely agree that all he seems to be attempting is cuts.  But that doesn't mean he's unable to hit a draw, it simply means he's CHOOSING to hit cuts.  Why?  I don't know.

 

We can't possibly know if he's able to hit a draw if he never attempts one.  He's a smart guy, so I assume he has his reasons.

I saw him hit draws last year with his 3 and 5 woods at Doral, so I know he can do it.  Yes, you are right in the wording.  For whatever reason he is choosing to elect to not hit draws.  The commentators of the tourney were mentioning it on TV pretty much on every drawable hole, noting that he only hits fades.  That's where my wording originated from.  It's a good question, but only one that he and Sean Foley can really answer

post #21 of 53
It's funny how most everyone looks good in sunglasses, but Tigs just looks like a doofus...
post #22 of 53
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

I don't like the wording of this.  I completely agree that all he seems to be attempting is cuts.  But that doesn't mean he's unable to hit a draw, it simply means he's CHOOSING to hit cuts.  Why?  I don't know.

 

We can't possibly know if he's able to hit a draw if he never attempts one.  He's a smart guy, so I assume he has his reasons.


I agree with you. Not a doubt in my mind he can hit a draw anytime he wants to. Hell, he's Tiger Woods!

 

I don't even have any problem at all with predominately playing fades on "draw holes" if that's what he is doing best.

 

Where it crosses over to a head scratcher to me is when he's trying to play a 30 yard slice for no apparent reason whatsoever.

post #23 of 53
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

I suppose that the camera angles could be off, and I could be wrong.  It certainly looked like he was aiming precisely where he was hitting it, but it's entirely possible that he was aiming down the left side and then hitting straight pulls.

 

I would also point out that his demeanor fascinated me.  He was hitting drives that ended up 30-40 left of the fairway beyond the rough, beyond the trees, and into the waste area, and he was reacting just like you do when you hit it good.  Reach down, pick up the tee, hand the driver to the caddie and start walking.  No grimaces, no gritted teeth, no vieled curses, just "ho-hum, as I expected."  Almost like he hit it where he intended, or he just wasn't at all surprised by the results.

@GolfingdadThe announcers agreed with you, and they were there -- he was lining up everything left.

 

He was very Zen-Like with his miscues. It's almost as if he's saying, "It is what it is, go to the next shot."

 

I was waiting for Bad Tiger to appear... as in "Eff you, Tiger" or his old reliable "GD!"

 

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As to the above, Tiger ought to be able to hit a cut because he's freakin' Tiger Woods ... but he tried and failed. The same with draws, he can hit them when he's not swatting at the ball like a bipolar psychotic.

 

Somethin's up ... Foley is in his head or something ... because this has gone on for too long and it's too weird ... the inability to hit routine shots ... disappearing on the weekends...

 

Weird ... 

post #24 of 53
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Originally Posted by MiniBlueDragon View Post
 

Yeah but likewise if he can't hit a draw at the moment he'll never attempt one. lol

Aha!!  Fair point.

 

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Originally Posted by mutadayen View Post
 

I saw him hit draws last year with his 3 and 5 woods at Doral, so I know he can do it.  Yes, you are right in the wording.  For whatever reason he is choosing to elect to not hit draws.  The commentators of the tourney were mentioning it on TV pretty much on every drawable hole, noting that he only hits fades.  That's where my wording originated from.  It's a good question, but only one that he and Sean Foley can really answer

Yeah, like @MiniBlueDragon said, its certainly possible he's not comfortable playing draws right now and that is why he's not attempting them.  But it could also be that he's really trying to perfect the swing he's after ... which could presumably be one that he hits dependable cuts with 99% of the time.

 

Only he and Foley know this I guess.

 

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It's funny how most everyone looks good in sunglasses, but Tigs just looks like a doofus...

LOL ... and I think that carries over to the facial hair too.  I prefer my Tigers clean shaven. ;)

 

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I agree with you. Not a doubt in my mind he can hit a draw anytime he wants to. Hell, he's Tiger Woods!

 

I don't even have any problem at all with predominately playing fades on "draw holes" if that's what he is doing best.

 

Where it crosses over to a head scratcher to me is when he's trying to play a 30 yard slice for no apparent reason whatsoever.

Exactly!!

post #25 of 53
Able to or not. He isn't hitting a decent cut either.
post #26 of 53
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Where it crosses over to a head scratcher to me is when he's trying to play a 30 yard slice for no apparent reason whatsoever.

I agree,   with that much control....why not just hit it straight and forget the fade?

 

Lee Trevino once said, If you have a straight a way fairway or a clean unobstructed view of the hole, that is not the time to hit a circus shot.....

post #27 of 53
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I agree,   with that much control....why not just hit it straight and forget the fade?

 

Lee Trevino once said, If you have a straight a way fairway or a clean unobstructed view of the hole, that is not the time to hit a circus shot.....

I don't know about your spitfisher but straight is much harder to me than some shape. I can hit a cut and a draw once and a while but straight is not a shot I even bother with.  For me if I try to hit the ball straight I feel like there is way more room to be wrong than when I shape a shot. If I go for a cut and it doesn't cut well Im usually ok. If I setup for a cut  over fade a shot and still be ok but a missed straight shot can be wrong a bunch of different ways. Just my opinion.

post #28 of 53
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Just finished watch day 2 with Tiger, Rory, and Gallacher.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  From what i saw today i wonder if Tiger will ever win another tourney, let alone a Major. His play around the green, esp the putting, very poor.  Very poor compared to his youthful years.  His body language said 'tired, worn out and only marginally interested in the competition'.  And yes, many drives shot straight out to the left. I hope he makes the cut. 

post #29 of 53
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Just finished watch day 2 with Tiger, Rory, and Gallacher.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  From what i saw today i wonder if Tiger will ever win another tourney, let alone a Major. His play around the green, esp the putting, very poor.  Very poor compared to his youthful years.  His body language said 'tired, worn out and only marginally interested in the competition'.  And yes, many drives shot straight out to the left. I hope he makes the cut. 

He's at -3, he'll make the cut. And he won 5 times last year, I'm sure it's not all left him.
post #30 of 53

Nice to see Rory off to a solid start in 2014. 

post #31 of 53

Tigs must have butchered the course -- I saw 16-18 and that was un-inspired golf.

 

A five wood from 215 on 18 landed him about 20 yards beyond and into that bunker. Next shot was poor, 2 putts from about 20 feet.

 

Why not set himself up with a short wedge from the fairway over that flag cut close to the edge near the water...

 

I'm thinking this: 'They paid me $3m to show. I better make the freakin cut, so I'll be over the water in 2, and if I can't get it down in three more, Foley is done."

 

:-)

post #32 of 53
Good to see Rory at the top of the leadeboard. I was hoping that he and Tiger would battle it out on Sunday but that's highly unlikely now.
post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by joekelly View Post
 

Just finished watch day 2 with Tiger, Rory, and Gallacher.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  From what i saw today i wonder if Tiger will ever win another tourney, let alone a Major. His play around the green, esp the putting, very poor.

 

You said the same crap before and he's won several times since then. Until Tiger's retired, you could take every "he'll never win again" bet ever offered to you and you'd come out ahead in the end.

post #34 of 53

Tiger playing like crap so far this season

post #35 of 53
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Originally Posted by JBradshaw View Post
 

Tiger playing like crap so far this season

I think this is his 3rd tournament and so far he's played poorly in one and were it not for Zach Johnson's miracle holeout from 80 yards he would have won the other.

 

He basically should be 50% on wins this year ... so, yeah, I agree ... crap.

post #36 of 53
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

I think this is his 3rd tournament and so far he's played poorly in one and were it not for Zach Johnson's miracle holeout from 80 yards he would have won the other.

 

He basically should be 50% on wins this year ... so, yeah, I agree ... crap.

Agreed, total crap. You can't win 'em all if you lose the first one, true stat.

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