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post #361 of 377
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post

That would be the general principle of the saying, but it doesn't necessarily hold true for golf. That is why I need to change my mindset to what is being said here, aim for the large part of the green instead of the small part where the flag is.
I see, thanks for clarifying.

I thought for a second that you were saying you need to aim for the flag, to which I would have responded, "just aim at a single point in the center of the green. That's even smaller than the hole." a2_wink.gif
post #362 of 377
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post
 

That would be the general principle of the saying, but it doesn't necessarily hold true for golf. That is why I need to change my mindset to what is being said here, aim for the large part of the green instead of the small part where the flag is.

That saying absolutely holds true for golf, and does not go against the principles of this thread either.  You just have to get the idea out of your head that the target at the green has to be the flag.

 

You should still pick a tiny target, just not the flag.

 

The shot I am most proud of from my round the other day was a 5 iron that landed on the left edge of the green pin high.  It went EXACTLY the direction and distance I intended it to go.  I could be silly and play the "shoot, I should have aimed at the flag" game and told myself if I'd have done that (which would have been stupid), I'd have had a 5' eagle putt, but that is never going to be the smart play on that hole from that spot.

post #363 of 377
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

That saying absolutely holds true for golf, and does not go against the principles of this thread either.  You just have to get the idea out of your head that the target at the green has to be the flag.

 

You should still pick a tiny target, just not the flag.

 

The shot I am most proud of from my round the other day was a 5 iron that landed on the left edge of the green pin high.  It went EXACTLY the direction and distance I intended it to go.  I could be silly and play the "shoot, I should have aimed at the flag" game and told myself if I'd have done that (which would have been stupid), I'd have had a 5' eagle putt, but that is never going to be the smart play on that hole from that spot.

I understand what you are saying, it's just in my mind the flag = bullseye. Also sometimes you can't pick a spot on the green to shoot for depending the view from where you are. It's just a matter of retraining my brain that the flag doesn't have to equal the bullseye.

post #364 of 377
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post
 

I understand what you are saying, it's just in my mind the flag = bullseye. Also sometimes you can't pick a spot on the green to shoot for depending the view from where you are. It's just a matter of retraining my brain that the flag doesn't have to equal the bullseye.

 

Stand behind the ball and think, where do I have to aim so my ball ends up at the center of the green. That is knowing your ball flight. So if you know your 8 iron has a 3 yard draw, then imagine the flight from the ball to the center of the green and then line up to hit it on that trajectory. 

post #365 of 377
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post

I understand what you are saying, it's just in my mind the flag = bullseye. Also sometimes you can't pick a spot on the green to shoot for depending the view from where you are. It's just a matter of retraining my brain that the flag doesn't have to equal the bullseye.
What I try to do is pick a tree or building ect... to hit at behind the green if im not hitting at the flag. That way I have a more defined target. I sometimes do that even when I'm hitting at the flag. It seems to make me focus more on my swing instead of the end result.
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Originally Posted by Jakester23 View Post


What I try to do is pick a tree or building ect... to hit at behind the green if im not hitting at the flag. That way I have a more defined target. I sometimes do that even when I'm hitting at the flag. It seems to make me focus more on my swing instead of the end result.


I do that off the tee. I aim for something on the horizon. A tree, or building or cloud. Seems to keep my driver more online. I don't see why it wouldn't work for iron shots too, eh?

post #367 of 377
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I do that off the tee. I aim for something on the horizon. A tree, or building or cloud. Seems to keep my driver more online. I don't see why it wouldn't work for iron shots too, eh?
I like doing that so I don't focus so much on the result.When I start looking at a spot on the green I tend to get to concerned with that spot instead of just making a good swing.
post #368 of 377
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

That saying absolutely holds true for golf, and does not go against the principles of this thread either.  You just have to get the idea out of your head that the target at the green has to be the flag.

You should still pick a tiny target, just not the flag.

Correct, you're basically just putting a "flag" in the center of the green. I do the same thing when I hit driver, I pick something in the background as the small target rather than looking at the entire fairway.
post #369 of 377
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post
 

I understand what you are saying, it's just in my mind the flag = bullseye. Also sometimes you can't pick a spot on the green to shoot for depending the view from where you are. It's just a matter of retraining my brain that the flag doesn't have to equal the bullseye.

Yeah, I understand this.  It's very easy to tell yourself to concentrate on that one tree branch in the distance as your target ... but as easy, if not easier, to let your eyes wander back to the flag for one last quick peek at that sexy thing right before looking back down at your ball. :beer:

 

One thing I've experiemented with a few times, and it has helped with focus, is to get an intermediate target that I can focus on after I set up to the ball, and then after I get set up, I don't look up at the big target anymore at all.  This would prevent me from focusing on the wrong thing, and, I believe, help curb some of those dreaded intrusive thoughts.  "Oooh, that's a big pond over there ... better not slice it."

 

Not sure if something like that would work for you, but it may be worth a try.

post #370 of 377
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post
 

Yeah, I understand this.  It's very easy to tell yourself to concentrate on that one tree branch in the distance as your target ... but as easy, if not easier, to let your eyes wander back to the flag for one last quick peek at that sexy thing right before looking back down at your ball. :beer:

 

One thing I've experiemented with a few times, and it has helped with focus, is to get an intermediate target that I can focus on after I set up to the ball, and then after I get set up, I don't look up at the big target anymore at all.  This would prevent me from focusing on the wrong thing, and, I believe, help curb some of those dreaded intrusive thoughts.  "Oooh, that's a big pond over there ... better not slice it."

 

Not sure if something like that would work for you, but it may be worth a try.

 

 

That is were I think visualization can help. Just keep holding that image of the ball flight. Try to remember the feel of that shot you had before. That way, even if you look at the flag your mind is on the shot you want to hit. 

post #371 of 377
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Originally Posted by saevel25 View Post
 

 

 

That is were I think visualization can help. Just keep holding that image of the ball flight. Try to remember the feel of that shot you had before. That way, even if you look at the flag your mind is on the shot you want to hit. 

ROFL, if I could execute a ball flight that I visualize I'd probably be able to get close to the flag :-P

post #372 of 377
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post
 

ROFL, if I could execute a ball flight that I visualize I'd probably be able to get close to the flag :-P

 

 

Why should that stop you anyways? Just because you are inconsistent, doesn't mean you can't practice good preshot routines. 

post #373 of 377
Here's an idea I just thought of five seconds ago....

What if I start playing a "mini-game" within an actual round of golf? Like, get as many GIR as possible? That would theoretically get my mind off of the score and flag hunting, right? I would think the best way to "win" this game would be to aim for the biggest part of the green (the middle).
post #374 of 377
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Originally Posted by billchao View Post

Here's an idea I just thought of five seconds ago....

What if I start playing a "mini-game" within an actual round of golf? Like, get as many GIR as possible? That would theoretically get my mind off of the score and flag hunting, right? I would think the best way to "win" this game would be to aim for the biggest part of the green (the middle).

That's what I did yesterday: how many GIR can I hit? I hit 4, and had three collars in addition. That's not a personal best, but it's certainly good for how I've been lately.
post #375 of 377
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Originally Posted by Shindig View Post

That's what I did yesterday: how many GIR can I hit? I hit 4, and had three collars in addition. That's not a personal best, but it's certainly good for how I've been lately.
Yea, I'm not naive enough to think that just changing my mindset will automatically make me a better player (or am I? a2_wink.gif), but I can think of at least one or two holes a round where I went for the flag and it ended up costing me at least a stroke. And we all know every stroke counts.
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It requires concentration and determination.!

post #377 of 377

I been finding early this season to try to aim for flags from inside 150 yards out and sometimes I would be very close and sometimes way off. Since then I started to zone in to the pin from 90 yards and in and 100 yards and further out I just try for a landing spot on the green and I been much more consistent.  

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