Originally Posted by Harmonious
Good explanation, Dave. Some folks are taking your 5 keys much too literally, sometimes to the extent that they cannot imagine anyone being able to hit the ball if their head moves even a little.
I somewhat disagree, Harmonious. I know there is leeway allowed here. But I've never seen a successful player have this much early extension before. Go find another one who does this as much as Walker does. I dunno if you can (I stand correct though if wrong!).
I simply didn't know it was possible to play this well with this much downswing upward head movement. I thought this was a major, major flaw and it appears I was wrong on that.
And I got a good explanation:
Originally Posted by iacas
Those all meet the definition of steady.
Remember, the most amount of freedom is allowed vertically and next most is towards and away from the golf ball. The least amount of movement, though some is still allowable, is towards and away from the target.
Thanks, Erik. It makes sense that lateral head movement would be more detrimental to the swing than upward movement.
Originally Posted by david_wedzik
Erik is right that those swings meet the definition of steady. Most of this has to do with the fact that he is a tour player and it is not causing him any direct issues.
I would have more concern if this happened to be, say, a single digit handicapper and the compensations necessary were creating ball flight issues. There are two parts to be considered as we look at players like this...1) is the head, as a reference point, steady per the definition/connotation and 2) is movement that is happening detrimental and/or does it have a direct correlation to certain ball flight issues...i.e. is it a priority when looking at the improvement plan for the player.
Right, but then what would you even change in his swing if you were his instructor? Obviously you'd ask him his miss and compare his good day swings with his bad day swings and show him the difference, but would you even address this issue with him? Would you tell him his right arm shouldn't be so bent at A6 and that his chest needs to feel like it's going downwards through the strike? That would be a major swing change.
I understand that PGA Tour pros need to be handled differently than regular folks for several reasons, but wow... if the instructor has to ignore this flaw in his tour pro, then what do you even suggest to him he should work on or change?
Sorry, I'm just still amazed he can play this well. I would just be massively confused over how to proceed. It's almost like Butch Harmon is right in how he handles his stable of guys: Just feed them placebos and hope to god they get out of their own way and play well?
Anyway, I appreciate all the responses here, fellas. You guys are the best. I'm glad I started the thread because I'm really learning something here.
And I know my hypothetical question may be too hypothetical to answer, Dave. But here's my rare opportunity to converse with you, so I'm taking advantage!! Thanks so much for coming on here and chiming in!