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This is where Tour pros stop in to check out new equipment, fine-tune their game, get in some workouts or build workout regiments, practice their short game on the really nice short game area they have here, etc.

Can't guarantee anything, but if you post in the next two or three hours, we'll ask them the questions you post here.

At the end of the day Mike or I (or both of us) will provide a recap.

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jamo Incredible Member

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How long does the process of testing and tuning new equipment usually take before a pro will make a bad change? Which piece of equipment takes the longest? When will we start seeing the next line of woods in the hands of pros? Which course on the PGA Tour has the nicest practice area?

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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And just how very different are the pros clubs - after all of the fine tuning and such - than what we can buy off the shelf?

For example, if I had the skill and a grinder, could I mimic anything that their pros play with?  Or can Jordan Spieth, for example, tell them he wants a Vokey with 18* of bounce and they'll magically crank one out for him?

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k-troop Great Member

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Is my made-for Titleist Mitsubishi shaft a big pile of dogcrap that's keeping me from hitting it like a tour pro? :-)

Kevin

Titleist 910 D3 9.5* with ahina 72 X flex
Titleist 910F 13.5* with ahina 72 X flex
Adams Idea A12 Pro hybrid 18*; 23* with RIP S flex
Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 iron with KBS C-Taper, S+ flex
Titleist Vokey SM wedges 48*, 52*, 58*
Odyssey White Hot 2-ball mallet, center shaft, 34"

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k-troop Great Member

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Honestly I am curious about loft and lie tolerances for "custom" irons. But i doubt they'll tell you "yeah those are way off."

Kevin

Titleist 910 D3 9.5* with ahina 72 X flex
Titleist 910F 13.5* with ahina 72 X flex
Adams Idea A12 Pro hybrid 18*; 23* with RIP S flex
Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 iron with KBS C-Taper, S+ flex
Titleist Vokey SM wedges 48*, 52*, 58*
Odyssey White Hot 2-ball mallet, center shaft, 34"

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I'm more interested in the workout routines, myself. What do they recommend in terms of building a good routine? How do they balance strength, power, and flexibility? Do they prefer body weight, dumbbell/kettlebell, or resistance bands, or is it a combination? Are there any "must have" workouts one should incorporate in a routine?

Bill

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k-troop Great Member

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Or can Jordan Spieth, for example, tell them he wants a Vokey with 18* of bounce and they'll magically crank one out for him?

Why would a tour pro want a wedge with 18* bounce?  Bounce is a crutch for weak players--it would unnecessarily limit the versatility of the wedge (i.e. on tight lies) and the pros are good enough that they don't have to worry about chunking pitch shots.

And of course that is completely full of :poo: . :edel:

Kevin

Titleist 910 D3 9.5* with ahina 72 X flex
Titleist 910F 13.5* with ahina 72 X flex
Adams Idea A12 Pro hybrid 18*; 23* with RIP S flex
Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 iron with KBS C-Taper, S+ flex
Titleist Vokey SM wedges 48*, 52*, 58*
Odyssey White Hot 2-ball mallet, center shaft, 34"

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This deals with wedges.

In most iron sets, the numbered irons have 1/2" increment differences in shaft length. (I know, in long irons the increment is sometimes .625", to allow for only 3* difference in lofts).

In wedges, Vokey has 1/4" shaft length increments between types of wedges (in SM4 line, PW = 35.75", GW = 35.5"... ).

So, why does Vokey (and many other OEMs) have the 1/4" shaft increments in its wedges, rather than the 1/2" increments?

(Cleveland in its CG15 and 588 lines only has 1/8" increments between wedge types).

Thanks, WUT

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Mike is posting pictures soon. We will post the answers to the questions later this weekend.

Erik J. Barzeski — ⛳ I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • Author, Lowest Score Wins
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Mike is posting pictures soon. We will post the answers to the questions later this weekend.

:dance:

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
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What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: :titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

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Had a great day at the Titleist Oceanside facility. Want to thank Steve Ziff and Austin Tudor for hosting us. Steve fit me for the 714 AP2 irons with KBS Tour stiff shafts. Got to try out a few other shafts, Nippon NS Pro Modus3 Tour 120, True Temper XP 105 and KBS Tour C Tapers. My numbers with the KBS Tours were the best. Also got to hit all the new Vokey SM5 wedges, some really cool stuff with these new wedges. Best ones for me was the K grind in the 58*, 11* of bounce and the 52* in the F grind, 12* of bounce.

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Sweet photos @mvmac !  Thanks for posting.

BTW, this putter would have been the club of choice for the Knights Templar.

Scott

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DAMN, that had to have been a FUN day.

There aren't too many things I'd rather do than actually play a round of golf, but I think a day spent messing around there would have been worth it!

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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Sweet photos @mvmac !  Thanks for posting.

BTW, this putter would have been the club of choice for the Knights Templar.

Oh lord please bless this holy putter so I may smite golf balls into tiny bits, and the lord did grin.

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What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: :titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

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Al B Tross Well Established Member

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That's some golf porn right there. Thanks for the pics - looking forward to the answers/input from Titleist.

Driver- :nike: Nike VR-Pro Limited Edition 9.5* Diamana 'ahina Stiff Flex 3 Wood- :titleist: Titleist 980 5 Wood- :tmade: Taylormade R9 3i-PW- :tmade: Taylormade Tour Preferred (Dynamic Gold S300) Putter- :tarmour: Tommy Armour T-Line 150 (it's old but I love it and haven't been able to find anything that feels better)

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