Originally Posted by iacas
These are going to be short responses, but you're making some pretty goofy claims @Innercity Mini.
Yeah, you too can have a swing that looks like this:
Most people will lose a lot of clubhead speed doing this.
I do not believe that you achieve the positions listed above and get the yardages you've indicated.
You've removed levers (bending the wrists) and decreased the length of the arc by eliminating a lot of the torso turn.
Please tell me you've not just alleged "racism" as the reason people are discussing/disputing this swing as valid for them (fairly able-bodied golfers)?
It was started with the comment "Whaddya think?" So I disagree that it seems to have been started "to abuse the MGSS without any respect…". I've asked you a few questions, and you have been unable to answer them. You've simply cheerleaded and ignored the questions, problems, and issues.
Threads here are to DISCUSS. You seem unwilling or unable to discuss anything, mirroring my experiences with Kiran herself on the Facebook.
That's not happening in any sort of scale.
Something must pass a reasonable burden of proof, common sense, and basic physics before I'm willing to give it "a fair trial."
This thread's going nowhere fast.
Hi iacas-let me offer you a discussion since nothing else I've submitted, videos, golf articles, personal testimonials etc. seem to reach your "burden of proof."
Dr, Jim Suttie has validated Kinwar's MGSS in the following video-
You assume that she has shortened her swing and club head arc-you can never prove this since SHE HAS LENGTHENED HER SWING BY KEEPING HER THUMBS HORIZONTAL. At worst, she has the same arc as a traditional swing ( depending on how it is measured) but has increased the time her hands are in the hitting area-conserving power and guaranteeing ball compression since the "Angle of Approach" (A golf Machine term) is so dependable in her method.
You assume she will lose power and speed but she does not-your assertions being only assertions and not proof are actually refuted by Dr. Suttie in this Golf.com article and research http://www.golf.com/instruction/no-backswing-swing
Kiran herself says as much in her original research shown here and on her blog:
Her blog, which is free, is filled with all sorts of "proofs" based on physics and bio-mechanical research http://minimalistgolfswingblog.com/anatomy-of-the-golf-swing/
I have ignored several of your questions about "weight shift, " since you refused to answer my question about the similarities between Hogan's five lessons and her research. Hogan keeps his left arm going up his chest, close to the chest as does Kiran. Hogan skips a stone from a tilted shallow right side as does Kiran (she calls it an underhanded clap). Hogan initiates his downswing with a planted left heel as his left knee is drawn in on the back-swing while Kiran pre-sets the left side for this return the moment she pre-tilts-anyone who tries the pre-tilt will discover the weight posted forward. Kiran calls the swing a slap but like Hogan, she starts with a feel of a lower body pull which she says in several of her videos. Like Hogan, Kiran's swing encourages the right ear to tilt at the right shoulder through impact guaranteeing a sweeping motion fpr most shots.
She has not eliminated the torso turn but pre-set it. She passes any burden of proof, common sense standard or research demands a reasonable person could require. She did not answer you personally so you start a thread to bash her? You and your followers talk about how "goofy" or strange her swing looks-you mention looks often-which is where I got the racist code from-she is a woman of color with an unusual looking swing.
You doubt I can drive the ball 250-so I will publish some medical verifications of my injuries and have a friend film me at the range hitting the net with a driver with range balls and with a new sleeve of any ball you name-just one sleeve since I work for a living! And then you will claim you do not have enough proof to try her swing. Right?
At least this guy was honest about his prejudice!