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post #1 of 23
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I've been Playing Golf for:​ On and off (mostly off) since I was a kid. Joined league 4 years ago, trying to take it more seriously recently. This is the first year I've continued to work on game during the winter.

My current handicap index or average score is: 9-10 not official, using online calculator

My typical ball flight is: Draw

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: Bad hooks/pull hooks

 

 

Video quality isn't the best, as close as I could get in the booth. Read the filming tips thread and will try and get some better angles/camera when I can. Any thoughts on what I have to work with would be appreciated though. Video is driver 1st, 7 iron second swing.

 


 

Videos: 

post #2 of 23
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I noticed swing seemed slow. Did the simulator inside a week later and was slow at the beginning, maybe bad winter habits?

 

 For reference here was my swing speed from last year at golf galaxy, which is in line with my distance I usually hit.

post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by Abominals View Post
 

I noticed swing seemed slow. Did the simulator inside a week later and was slow at the beginning, maybe bad winter habits?

 

 For reference here was my swing speed from last year at golf galaxy, which is in line with my distance I usually hit.

 

 

Looks like you put way too much spin on your drives. Try to hit up with the driver. Try to get that spin lower. If it is still high, then get fitted for a better driver for your swing. Also get better contact, 1.38 smash factor is horrible for a driver. You want near 1.46+ for a driver. So you are loosing about 20 mph ball speed. 

 

Yea, with better contact, and depending on your numbers after you improve your swing a better driver fitting could mean you could easily get that 20 yards off the tee. I would fix your swing fist before chucking out on a new driver though. You could get a lot of that cleaned up with your own effort. 

 

Ok on your swing,

 

Quick fixes,

1) Posture. You are way TOO arched in the back. 

 

http://thesandtrap.com/t/56069/good-golf-posture

 

read that thread and try to get a bit more upright, with less arch in your lower back and more arch in your upper back. See tiger bellow. Looking down on the ball through the center of his eyes, not down his nose. Lower back is not arched. Upper back is nice and relaxed. Doesn't looked forced at all. 

 

 

Not so quick fixes, (

1) you are very shallow on your shoulder turn. Need to get that more steep. Some of that will be fixed with the posture. Less arch and more shoulder arch will allow you to turn correctly more easily. 

 

 

See how in this drill his shoulders are pointing closer to were the divots are taken at. The shoulder should point just outside the ball (up to 2 feet), but for you that would feel like its pointing at the ball. Also note how steep his right hip turns up and his left hip turns down. This drill will really help you feel a correct shoulder turn, as well as were the hands should be at the top of the swing. 

 

this will clean up a lot in your swing. You get way TOO shallow, and your hands get way too deep the wrong way. 

 

Less hands deep, and more hands up. Allow your turn to get the depth. I would work on getting your turn correct first. That will be easier to feel. Getting the hands to work in the backswing will take much more work. 

post #4 of 23
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Great stuff, thanks. Will work on this and update when I can.

post #5 of 23
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Tried to listen to saevel25's advice. Think it's better not sure. Hit a large and small bucket and only had one pull-hook, which is great for me. On the bad side at the beginning was hitting some low shots, and pushed it out right much more often. The positive was overall ball flight was much straighter and swing was different so at least I was doing something different. Appreciate any feedback.

 

post #6 of 23

To my very much untrained eyes the postures looking better. This thread is worth a look in terms of posture: 

 

Good Golf Posture (How to Address the Golf Ball)
started on 03/02/12 last post 11/26/14 at 2:44pm 228 replies 91338 views
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by FooFader View Post
 

To my very much untrained eyes the postures looking better. This thread is worth a look in terms of posture: 

 

Good Golf Posture (How to Address the Golf Ball)
started on 03/02/12 last post 11/26/14 at 2:44pm 228 replies 91338 views

 

 

Thanks, missed this reply. Thought I had it set to email posts on this but I guess not. I had checked that thread out and I think it helped, at least it looked like it to me too.

post #8 of 23
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Pretty bad session today. Hit my irons great at first, a little revert to a draw but not too bad. However driver was TERRIBLE. One thing I noticed from the video was my driver seemed really across the line but not sure if that's the problem. Going to get some lessons so I can get some more instant feedback. Might be more effective than plan B of breaking the driver in half.

 

 

 

post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Abominals View Post
 

Pretty bad session today. Hit my irons great at first, a little revert to a draw but not too bad. However driver was TERRIBLE. One thing I noticed from the video was my driver seemed really across the line but not sure if that's the problem. Going to get some lessons so I can get some more instant feedback. Might be more effective than plan B of breaking the driver in half.

 

 

Part of the across the line look is the position of the camera. Should be down the stance line, not the ball/target line.

 

Posture looks better, keep feeling the neck/upper back soft. Here's what I see, right leg gets too straight, too soon.

 

 

Could indicate that the hips are sliding to the right on the backswing. Would recommend checking this out

 

 

 

post #10 of 23
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Well took a couple swings in the mirror after watching this, it does appear I am sliding back a little bit. Thanks for the tips. 

post #11 of 23
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Well took a couple swings in the mirror after watching this, it does appear I am sliding back a little bit. Thanks for the tips. 

I can suggest that you read through this thread if you haven't already,  Simple, Specific, Slow, Short, and Success - The Five "S"s of Great Practice .

 

It will most likely change the way you go about practicing and trust me that it really works. Practice the drill mvmac gave you very slowly in the mirror as the thread advises etc. It's the best way to see changes creep into your swing i promise

post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by FooFader View Post
 

I can suggest that you read through this thread if you haven't already,  Simple, Specific, Slow, Short, and Success - The Five "S"s of Great Practice .

 

It will most likely change the way you go about practicing and trust me that it really works. Practice the drill mvmac gave you very slowly in the mirror as the thread advises etc. It's the best way to see changes creep into your swing i promise

 

QFT  :beer:

post #13 of 23
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Wanted to use the info from the Simple, Specific, Slow, Short, and Success - The Five "S"s of Great Practice  thread this week, instead spent half the week with he stomach flu and the other half working crazy hours. Fiscal year over so now on to a more normal work schedule and will try and get some good practice in.

 

This weeks session was much improved. Watched mvmac's video and without practicing was much improved. Only one bad pull/hook the entire session(good for me). Driver was still a little low at times but MUCH improved over last few sessions.

 

Went to a golf expo on Sunday, they had a free instructor who took a quick look at some swings and gave some quick tips. Said grip was pretty strong, and a little bit too much in the palm. Also said I saw sliding back a bit, just like mvmac said. Overall thought my swing was pretty good just needed to tighten up those things.

 

The video is 7 iron, a decent drive and then one of my low liner drives. The range plans on opening the grass next weekend, will be able to bring my better camera and get some straight on views and better views overall.

 

Thanks for all the advice everyone, very happy with how things are coming along since I joined the site.

 

post #14 of 23

Yeah looking better for sure.

 

With the driver make sure the eyes are more "down". They're better with the iron swing you posted.

 

Eyes up, chin up, weight is a little back in the heels.....

 

Leads to the shoulders turning too flat, notice how shallow the club is loading back (pointing too far outside the ball). Have to make some compensations from there. Not saying you have to look exactly like the right picture, just giving an example.

post #15 of 23

Abdominals, look at the top picture above in Mikes post, look at the difference in right hand positions, you probably have your right hand rotated 30 degrees clockwise (as you view it) or under the grip or stronger. Your hands set/hinge correctly, but because your grip (right hand) is positioned to start with incorrectly the take away is flat. It's like hanging a door, put the hinge on incorrectly and the door won't swing correctly.

post #16 of 23

@Abominals, want to also share this thread with you

 

 

So You Joined TST and Posted a Member Swing Thread…
started on 03/13/14 last post 07/12/14 at 11:51pm 16 replies 4389 views
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Pave View Post
 

Abdominals, look at the top picture above in Mikes post, look at the difference in right hand positions, you probably have your right hand rotated 30 degrees clockwise (as you view it) or under the grip or stronger. Your hands set/hinge correctly, but because your grip (right hand) is positioned to start with incorrectly the take away is flat. It's like hanging a door, put the hinge on incorrectly and the door won't swing correctly.

 

The instructor specifically mentioned the right hand, but didn't put it in any context like you did thanks. Never knew or thought about how it could effect the take away.

post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post
 

@Abominals, want to also share this thread with you

 

 

So You Joined TST and Posted a Member Swing Thread…
started on 03/13/14 last post 07/12/14 at 11:51pm 16 replies 4389 views

 

Thanks for all the tips above, and can't help but think you are hinting I should be participating elsewhere. And if so, yes point taken :surrender:

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