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post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 
Wahey i finally figured how to embed woop woop

Right anyway following on from the instruction thread i creat about my struggle with snap hooking i went to the range today and got the irons going nice, focusing on steeper shoulders, clearing the hips sorted i liked it, still a bit of a pull but i can live with it

The woods/driver, oh dear me, still hooking but now mostly a big straight fade, and no idea why, i tried stiff wrists i tried loose wrists, i tried the lot but couldnt get anything near as accurate as my irons

The below video has three shots, apologies for the poor lighting

Shot 1 pulled left
Shot 2 straight fade
Shot 3 big pu



post #2 of 34

Hard to access but I would weaken your grip and see if that helps. The second shot sounded "fat" and that will often square up the face a bit which with the over the top swing you have, would produce a straight fade. Your club face is closed and in line with over the top swing causing a "pull". I think there is more to address but it is a start.

post #3 of 34
Thread Starter 
Yeah i hit a few drives fat and quite a few three woods off the deck fat, didnt realise i have an over the top swing?

I always used to swing to much inside out due to a flat backseing, i swing much more upright now but didnt thing my path had gone the other way??
post #4 of 34

Would like to see the arms "hang" more (like the red line). Hands are too far away from you, everything looks a little stiff.

 

 

Shoulders and hips turn too level, like to see the shoulders turn about 90* to your address inclination (amount you are bent over at address). This causes the arms to lift and makes it hard to be consistent with timing, path and contact.

 

To start and turn steeper, turn both feet out at address

 

 

Will free up the knees to do their thing, get that "stick", whether you imagine it on your shoulders or hips, to point more downward.

 

 

post #5 of 34
Thread Starter 
Okay so esentially

1 stand closer so the arms hang down more ( i can do this but it feels like the club rests more on the heel unless i stand more upright

2 flare feet to allow steeper turn shoulder and hip turn ( should i feel like my right knee bends alot? Wheneveri get that feel i fat it alot)

Thank you for the analysis much appreciated
post #6 of 34
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2 flare feet to allow steeper turn shoulder and hip turn ( should i feel like my right knee bends alot? Wheneveri get that feel i fat it alot)

 

The opposite actually, the right knee will lose some flex in the backswing. Left bends, right loses some flex.

 

 Myth of Maintaining Your Address Flex in the Rear Knee 

 

post #7 of 34
Thread Starter 
Ah apologiesuve been stupidi meant the left knee

Ive tried in themirror to steepen my shoulders/ hips and the only way i feel like i can acheive it is to turn the hipsback more and flex the left knee more to allow me to create the angles, looks a bit reverse pivot in the mirror though

The only other way i can do it is to try the left shoulder to inside right heel feeling but that hurts and makesme feel bunched up
post #8 of 34
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Ah apologiesuve been stupidi meant the left knee

Ive tried in themirror to steepen my shoulders/ hips and the only way i feel like i can acheive it is to turn the hipsback more and flex the left knee more to allow me to create the angles, looks a bit reverse pivot in the mirror though

The only other way i can do it is to try the left shoulder to inside right heel feeling but that hurts and makesme feel bunched up

 

Yes that's exactly what you need to do, flex the left knee more. Like the video says ;-)

 

Film yourself demonstrating it and post it up. If the head isn't going forward (towards the target), then it's not a "reverse pivot".

 

Would not recommend doing the left shoulder to right heel, can move the head to the right and not allow for enough "stretch".

post #9 of 34
Thread Starter 

New angles as per the videos
post #10 of 34
Thread Starter 
Well try as i may i cant get the shoulder plane down, the harder i try to get the plane down the more i fat it or banana slice it :(

Looks like im sticking with aiming left and hoping i dont hook it, irons are generally fine, hitting a number of them fat as well though
post #11 of 34

Backswing practice swings looks better. Posture is still very stiff, check out this thread Good Golf Posture (How to Address the Golf Ball) 

 

And on the downswing, get the weight more forward, add more pressure into that left foot so the hips can transfer forward. Another reason to have the left foot turned out. When the weight doesn't get forward enough, the path will be left.

 

 

post #12 of 34
Thread Starter 
I really struggled with putting the shoulder angles into an actually golf swing, and the more i tried to get the weight forward the more right i pushed it, odd might have to book in for another lesson
post #13 of 34
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I really struggled with putting the shoulder angles into an actually golf swing, and the more i tried to get the weight forward the more right i pushed it, odd might have to book in for another lesson

 

Take a wedge or a short iron and do it at 30% speed. Just work on changing the picture. Get the posture more "slumped", it will help. Going to be tough to sequence things properly with everything so rigid.

post #14 of 34
Thread Starter 
Ive been making a conscious effort to stick my butt out and straighten my back, i guess thats making me rather stiff? In my latest range video my shoulders look rather pulled forward also which i guess isnt good?

I can manage the shoulders on the irons to a degree, just the woods im struggling with, got short arms :(
post #15 of 34
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Ive been making a conscious effort to stick my butt out and straighten my back, i guess thats making me rather stiff? In my latest range video my shoulders look rather pulled forward also which i guess isnt good?

I can manage the shoulders on the irons to a degree, just the woods im struggling with, got short arms :(

 

Did you read the thread?

 

Sticking the butt out and standing up isn't a good position for playing good golf. You need to do the opposite, slump over and soften the lower back. Especially if you have short arms ;-)

post #16 of 34
Thread Starter 
Ah i see more now, thank you for the advice I'm playing thursday I'll see how it goes :)
post #17 of 34
Thread Starter 
well another range session and another disaster :( i just cannot get a feeling for what a good swing feels like, i couldnt get my 3 wood off the deck and when i did it was bananarama

i tried slow 30% swings to try and grain a feel but couldnt find anything

by the end of the session the only thing that got my irons/driver anywhere near playable was an exaggerated hip turn on the back swing, 3 wood was still shit though, how i didnt snap every club through sheer frustration i do not know

i spent an hour trying to hit a draw, and just pushed it further and further right, tried starting with a closed clubface and just fatted it, i wonder sometimes if i just cant play golf
post #18 of 34

Hi there, thought i'd comment for two reasons. Firstly, don't get disheartened. As long as you're making progress with whatever you're working on, set up in your case from the above posts then try to stay happy. We all play golf because we enjoy it right? Also us people from the UK need to stick together on here ;-)

 

Also as a side note when you're filming your swing or anything for that matter hold your phone/camera sideways so you get the videos without the blacks bars at the side on YouTube, took me to see a post of someone moaning about this before i realised i'd been doing it wrong myself so thought i'd share it with you before someone moans. Good Luck with your game, i'll be following your thread

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