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post #19 of 34
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lol didnt know sidewayswould fix that, thanks

i think im most disheartened by how my game was really good last year, i was shooting mid 80's and now its just gone to pot, im no where near my 18 handicap at the minute, ive even started fading my irons now

the more i try to get my weight forward the more i slice everything and even shanked a few

i hit a few drivers with a feeling of getting me left wrist flat at impact and hit some good drives but this was at 40% swing, as soon as i ramped it up i couldnt replicate the feeling and just blocked everything right
post #20 of 34
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i tried slow 30% swings to try and grain a feel but couldnt find anything

 

The slower swings are partially to give yourself a feel but also to make sure you change the picture. So you film yourself making slow swings and you check it to make sure you're doing it enough. If not then you do it more, if it's good then you know that feel worked to make the picture good at 30% speed.

 

Would also recommend this drill

 

post #21 of 34
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its funnyu should post that drill as i remember seeing it a while back when i tried s&t so i tried it today and just block sliced even the short drill shots, the full swing was so oob i dont think they have a bame for it,

for whatever reason i cannot produce a swing that comes anywhere close to naturally squaring the face to whatever swing path i impart, every swing i do i have to manually try and roll the wrists over or something of a similar ilk, mostly that causes a hook, flip, banana slice, block, the only thing i can guarantee when i step up to a golf ball now is the swing is gunna crap,

ive found a teacher that a friend recomended who is the swing coach of a few touring pros that apparently is really good so im going to go see him see what he says by looking at my swing and some video analysis

its hard because the more i try to implement your drills the further right i hit the ball, the more fat i hit the ball, so changing is hard because the results are worse, the big problem is going back to what i do now is just as bad

i hate this game, low 80's last year? not happening this year for sure
post #22 of 34

Not to highjack your thread, but I hit about 20 balls today doing what Mike, and Erik showed. First few balls went where ever, but the rest went fairly straight, definitely helped me. 

post #23 of 34
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Not to highjack your thread, but I hit about 20 balls today doing what Mike, and Erik showed. First few balls went where ever, but the rest went fairly straight, definitely helped me. 
lol not at all i get what you mean

i think my problem is rooted elsewhere that even when i get what mike is telling me right, it doesnt pan out because of my other problems
post #24 of 34
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Mike/Erik

 

I didnt want to start another thread for this question and clog things up so thought id ask it here and hope you see it,

 

I'm spending 10-20 minutes a day in the mirror teaching myself a new shoulder plane, a steeper one as im really flat, im using your drills to help this and it feels good, at first it was awkward and painful, now it feels free,

 

Tomorrow i plan on a range session with my buddy videoing my swing and i plan on the 30% drill mike advocated to engrain the feel, (a few full swings as well, i like to thwack it sometimes)

 

My question is, im grooving a new backswing shoulde plane thats steeper, do i need to replicate this on the downswing? it feels natural to do that from where my new backswing ends up, but feels as though i might end up smashing the club into the ground getting the right shoulder that far down on the down swing,......

 

Is this the right sorta feeling? im not to focused on the downswing as yet as i want the backswing plan to be grooved in before i jump ahead, but a general idea/consensus would be cool

 

@mvmac 

post #25 of 34
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My question is, im grooving a new backswing shoulde plane thats steeper, do i need to replicate this on the downswing? it feels natural to do that from where my new backswing ends up, but feels as though i might end up smashing the club into the ground getting the right shoulder that far down on the down swing,......

 

Is this the right sorta feeling? im not to focused on the downswing as yet as i want the backswing plan to be grooved in before i jump ahead, but a general idea/consensus would be cool

 

@mvmac 

 

I wouldn't worry too much about your downswing yet. A change in the backswing will tend to produce changes in the downswing "automatically." Just let that stuff happen and when downswing stuff becomes your priority, deal with it then.

 

And if you want to whack a few balls at full speed on the range, go at it. It's fun and a good change of pace. Just limit them and spend a bit more of the time working on stuff to make changes.

post #26 of 34
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ok cool, thanks for the input, will hopefully post some video tomorrow night :) 

post #27 of 34
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My question is, im grooving a new backswing shoulde plane thats steeper, do i need to replicate this on the downswing? it feels natural to do that from where my new backswing ends up, but feels as though i might end up smashing the club into the ground getting the right shoulder that far down on the down swing,......

 

Is this the right sorta feeling? im not to focused on the downswing as yet as i want the backswing plan to be grooved in before i jump ahead, but a general idea/consensus would be cool

 

I wouldn't worry about steepening the shoulders on the downswing. Doing the backswing pieces well "sets up" a lot of good things to happen. Doesn't mean that you'll never need to work on the downswing, it's just not the priority piece right now. 

 

I can't necessarily confirm whether the feel is "right" or not. Going to feel a little different for everyone. I've known some players that feel like they're going to hit it five feet behind the ball and then they get over it when they start hitting it solid. Having said that, if you're feeling like you're going to smash the ground, I think you're on the right track.

post #28 of 34
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sounds promising then lol, ive read through tons of member swing threads and a recurring theme is how they feel the new swing change but actually arent swinging much different as it takes so long to engrain, so im trying to not jump ahead to far to fast, but cant help be curious

 

im excited to hit balls tomorrow even if its just at 30% to see how it feels with a club weight in my hands, 

post #29 of 34
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sounds promising then lol, ive read through tons of member swing threads and a recurring theme is how they feel the new swing change but actually arent swinging much different as it takes so long to engrain, so im trying to not jump ahead to far to fast, but cant help be curious

 

im excited to hit balls tomorrow even if its just at 30% to see how it feels with a club weight in my hands, 

 

Yes you're going about making the changes the right way. Going to be much easier to "own" your pieces by practicing at home, then doing 30% swings on the range mixed in with full speed swings. 

 

When you hit balls tomorrow, don't be too results oriented as it relates to what the ball is doing. You may hit it great but just swinging at that speed is new to you. A bad shot doesn't mean, "this stuff doesn't work". I know you know that but good for other people reading to see it. Keep doing it and I think you'll see some success with how the picture changes.

post #30 of 34
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thats what im trying to tell my friend whos coming, hes asked my plan it its simply 30%, steeper shoulders, shot result doesnt matter yet.

 

he doesnt get the "shot result doesnt matter" part, and to be honest without being on this forum neither would i, but it makes sense to when you imagine back to how you first started golf, it probably wasnt great but you stick at it till it works

 

people at work think im weird though cus we have massive mirrors in the loo's and every time someone walks in im there in a golf swing pose working on my shoulders,......hey who cares

post #31 of 34
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thats what im trying to tell my friend whos coming, hes asked my plan it its simply 30%, steeper shoulders, shot result doesnt matter yet.

 

he doesnt get the "shot result doesnt matter" part, and to be honest without being on this forum neither would i, but it makes sense to when you imagine back to how you first started golf, it probably wasnt great but you stick at it till it works

 

people at work think im weird though cus we have massive mirrors in the loo's and every time someone walks in im there in a golf swing pose working on my shoulders,......hey who cares

He'll "get it" in 3 months when you're playing the best golf of your life dont worry. Keep up the good work :-D

post #32 of 34
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lol thanks, thats my plan,.......i was at 18hcp, hes at 16, but ive always kept him honest, lately hes closer to 14hcp and im closer to 20/21hcp so got some ground to make up!!!

post #33 of 34
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Wow what a difference a few days and engraining a new swing feel makes,.........instead of good contact on 1/5 it was constantly good contact, every shot

 

instead of going hook/straight/push/draw/hook/push/top/top/thin.........................just straight fades everytime

 

I tried the 30% swing speed and just couldnt grasp it, slowing down so much seemed to only allow me way more time to do something wrong,

 

instead i took 3-4 slow practice swings getting the steeper shoulder feeling then tried to replicate it with a full shot, then repeated

 

unfortunately when i went to record my swing my phone died, but my buddy watched me for a while and agreed my shoulders were alot steeper than before, just need to engrain now so i dont have to think about it, just to do it

 

overall mega happy though!!

post #34 of 34
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Wow what a difference a few days and engraining a new swing feel makes,.........instead of good contact on 1/5 it was constantly good contact, every shot

 

instead of going hook/straight/push/draw/hook/push/top/top/thin.........................just straight fades everytime

 

I tried the 30% swing speed and just couldnt grasp it, slowing down so much seemed to only allow me way more time to do something wrong,

 

 

Good to hear things are better.

 

I will recommend not giving up completely on the 30% swings, at least do slow practice swings. It really will help. I've never seen someone make a slow swing and get in worse positions than their full speed swing. Kind of the point of doing it slow, you going at a pace that you're aware of what your body is doing so you can't "do anything wrong". Just my thoughts.

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