anyone think the traction 85 stiff shafts is more like a regular
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I dumped the mid-heavy stiff shafts about 2009 and went to regular.
I'm noticing, however, that on the lightweight steel shafts I can handle a stiff quite well on some models.
I'm finding a crossover point for shaft weight and flex. The Traction85 gram shafts - even in stiff - just feel too light; it's hard to tell when I'm at the top. It has a mid-kick point - medium launch - but I don't know the tip info.
For a time Cleveland used a TRAction shaft in its wedges: a Wedgeflex with a more flexible tip for extra spin, and a stiffer butt for a little lower launch. (Similar dynamics to the Spinner Flex - but TRAction has no shaft joint below the grip.).
You can order the MT, TT, and Altitude irons with an NS Pro 950 that weighs 95 grams in R and 98 grams in S. (Don't know if NS is an upcharge).