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How can you get spin on Chips and Pitchs

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

You see the Pros do it. Its one thing I love to be able to do cause I could be more aggressive in my chipping.

 

My Putting and Bunker play is solid but my chipping is bit edgy and I think were I to be able to play a shot like this I be much more solid.

 

Any tips or advice? Even Video?

 

Thanks in advance.

post #2 of 18

http://thesandtrap.com/t/39411/quickie-pitching-video-golf-pitch-shot-technique

 

Besides technique, its having a very tight lie. Pro's play on pristine fairways. Hardly any grass gets in the grooves of the wedges to inhibit spin. Its also having club head speed. I would say faster greens also help as well. 

 

So the pro's have a lot going for them to spin it back, or having it hit and stop consistently. 

 

I would learn some good technique, and learn what your consistent launch and spin conditions are, then just gauge landing zone by that. 

post #3 of 18
Everything Matt said and the confidence to use enough club head speed on short shots and the striking ability to back up that confidence.

Confidence without ability can get ugly. Nothing ruins a day like a 50 yard skull across a green 5 yards away or a 60 degree wedge about 6 groves too high on the face. Especially when it could have been bumped up there close to the pin with any club in the bag (including the putter).

Most people are better served by only counting on a lot of spin when there aren't any other good options.
post #4 of 18

Well, i'm not going to tell you to forget it but rather learn the variables associated with ball position in the stance, the hands at address, the openess of the clubface, and smoothness of impact and wrist hinge. . Sure tall wet grass makes a difference, maybe the short stuff too. I have recently seen many of my chips hitting the green and squirting left then rolling a bit.  Other chips bounce true and straight. So i can see some effects of those mentioned items. Lee Trevino kept his chips low with lots of spin, others play only a high ball with spin. So, learn the difference and how to do it. 

post #5 of 18
Speed....

....strike the ball with speed. That's all.
post #6 of 18

More technical explanations but definitely helped me get this technique squared away:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38FCxpgINq8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQEBCaCSpyY

post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by Righty to Lefty View Post
 

More technical explanations but definitely helped me get this technique squared away:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38FCxpgINq8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQEBCaCSpyY

 

Good vids.  Thanks for posting the links.

 

dave

post #8 of 18

everything that every one said here is right. lie, grooves, and the greens are all very important. also making sure you have really good contact with the ball is important. striking the ball first followed by the grass is what promotes spin. just keep practicing and you'll get it. i'm not sure how far of a chip you're talking about, but the type of ball you use could help with spin

post #9 of 18

just seems like the potential for a bad shot far outweighs the good for amateurs trying those high spin green side shots.    I've never seen anything wrong with learning to judge roll out by feel with a number of different clubs depending on green side conditions, length of shot, etc.     Although, being able to execute the one hop & stop chip is badass and commands a certain level of respect for those who can do it under pressure ...

post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by inthehole View Post
 

just seems like the potential for a bad shot far outweighs the good for amateurs trying those high spin green side shots.    I've never seen anything wrong with learning to judge roll out by feel with a number of different clubs depending on green side conditions, length of shot, etc.     Although, being able to execute the one hop & stop chip is badass and commands a certain level of respect for those who can do it under pressure ...

That reminds me. Those shots that we think we have completely under control can fold like a lawn chair at just the wrong time under pressure.

 

I learned that the hard way in the first Club Championship I ever played in. At that time I was in love with the 60 degree and thought I had flops and spinners under complete control. On the 16th hole I had the easiest little chip in the world (should have been able to get up and down with my eyes closed). Needless to say I completely flubbed the little spinner I intended to hit.

 

The words of an older guy, and good golfer, I had played a lot of golf with flashed through my mind. "Yeah, that's a nice shot but will it hold up under pressure?"

post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 

Guys thanks for the help.

 

Bit of newbee here so the good advice is very welcome.

 

I plan to do a lot of practise on the basics this year(Grip, Postue etc) and short game, but would like to learn 1 or 2 decent shots like this one too. I will get back to you in meantime and see how this goes.

post #12 of 18

I will agree with those that advise against a spinning chip shot.  To get consistent roll-outs, you really want to eliminate spin on chips as much as possible.  Not to say that certain circumstances may call for a bit more aggressive plays, but for a standard "get it rolling as soon as possible" chip shot, less spin is better.

post #13 of 18

Here's one my favorite spiny chips shots from Lefty

 

clean ball, backstop, multiple eyes watching, no box grooves. and this isnt some low one hop and stop, It's a high shot with backspin.

 

post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by dchoye View Post
 

Here's one my favorite spiny chips shots from Lefty

 

clean ball, backstop, multiple eyes watching, no box grooves. and this isnt some low one hop and stop, It's a high shot with backspin.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA2-DEEkU9M

 

Spiny pitch shot :-D

 

Yea, Phil actually got lucky with no grass between him in the ball. That was actually not that difficult of a lie. If that puff of grass as behind his ball, he would not have been able to spin in that much. 

post #15 of 18

The announcers were right, only Phil can pull that shot off.

post #16 of 18

I just can't imagine swinging that hard that close to the pin with so many people around.     I would be so worried about killing someone with a blade shot - it would get in my head.     THey have so much confidence in their shotmaking to attempt shots like that with people all around them ... confidence is a big part of what separates them from mere mortals

post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by Righty to Lefty View Post
 

More technical explanations but definitely helped me get this technique squared away:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38FCxpgINq8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQEBCaCSpyY

Thank you for this. I hit somewhat similar to described in the first video and always thought I was doing it wrong. Some good tips to work on.

post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by dchoye View Post
 

Here's one my favorite spiny chips shots from Lefty

 

clean ball, backstop, multiple eyes watching, no box grooves. and this isnt some low one hop and stop, It's a high shot with backspin.

 

That is really not a chip.  It is partial to full swing with a high lofted wedge.

 

Spin on chips really relates to club head speed, as @David in FL stated, and making clean contact.  The pitch gives you more margin for error.  But this chip does come in useful.  My chipping has improved a lot since last year.  It has gotten to the point of where the majority of my longer chips will check up.  I play my chips as left hand controlled shots as Dave Stockton prescribes.  You get much more consistent contact allowing your left hand (I'm right handed) to control the shot.  Weight shift is also important, just like it the pitch shot.

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