Originally Posted by JetFan1983
I definitely get what you guys are saying and Erik knows I'm 100% on board, but as a devil's advocate, if I may, I could argue that a feel doesn't have to be based in reality to be a good feel. "Release" as a feel or idea can work for some people for a variety of reasons -- this assumes of course that the picture looks better/the numbers are better or whatever too when using said feel.
To be clear, I don't care what the feel is - if a player wants to feel "release" and that's their words for what they feel and it produces the proper mechanics - great. "Release" all day (until you "release" too much I guess). Have at it.
But "rolling the forearms over" and "rolling the wrists" is almost never something anyone actually really "does" in the golf swing. Your body almost literally can't do it, not at speed. You are releasing #3 and #2, but the release of #3 is incredibly slow until #2 is released. The moment arm of the clubhead is huge when #2 is loaded.
If "lag happens" then "release" (defined as rolling #3 anytime before about A7.25) also "happens" IMO.
Originally Posted by AmazingWhacker
I used to be a HUGE slicer/push-fader/pull-slicer. I couldn't get the clubface closed to save my life. Now, if anything, I have the opposite problem. My misses are usually thins (or tops with the driver) .. but otherwise it's a hook. At times my hook can be problematic but not when I'm swinging well.
With either thought - the release is basically the same (or so it seems). It's just whether I feel like I'm triggering/controlling it with my right arm and hand or if feel like my pivot/turn is what's causing the release (cause my arms are at the end of their extension and my body is turning through. . so the arms just naturally have to roll over in order to keep going). I'd probably not even have any question which is better except the pivot/turn method leaves me with my belt buckle pointing 45 degrees left of target at follow through . .which seems possibly wrong. That and the pivot/turn method wears me out. After a long range session my core/stomach muscles are sore and my hands are a bit torn up (I don't wear a glove).
Well, it's tough for anyone to know what your feels are, and unless you have high-speed video, or AMM data, or some such, it's tough to know what you're actually doing too.
For example, Bill Haas "releases" the club (using the more common definition), yet you won't really see much "release" until the fourth frame here:
How much did Hogan "release" the club prior to impact or even in the first foot or two after impact?
If you now pull-hook the ball, why are you worried about "releasing"? It seems to me that you probably flip at the ball, shut the face, hit your thin pull-hooks, and you need to learn Key #3 stuff (line the shaft up later, as you probably do it prematurely) and to eventually feel less "release."