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post #109 of 120
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Originally Posted by Rick Martin View Post
 

Ernie is the same place that Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelsen, Luke Donald, Jason Dufner, Sergio, and Zach Johnson are - watching on TV with the rest of us.  Even Hank Haney agrees - said it today. This is the weakest field of the four majors and I agree with him.  When Lucas Glover makes a cut while these top players are home, there's definitely a tricked-up, goofiness to this course as I've always said (been to several Masters at Augusta National).

 

Hank Haney agrees with your opinion. You can take any opinion in the world and find someone to agree with it. That alone doesn't change how valid your opinion is.

 

The qualifying criteria were posted above, and so was the criteria for the British Open. Please point out the differences, as that will display the differences in the strength of field. The Opens both allow a bunch of people to qualify - they just don't automatically exempt former winners… except when they do. :-P Post #106 just above.

 

The PGA actually has the strongest field. Or the Players Championship, you could argue.

 

Lucas Glover qualified. Kevin Na didn't.

post #110 of 120
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Originally Posted by Rick Martin View Post
 

Ernie is the same place that Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelsen, Luke Donald, Jason Dufner, Sergio, and Zach Johnson are - watching on TV with the rest of us.  Even Hank Haney agrees - said it today. This is the weakest field of the four majors and I agree with him.  When Lucas Glover makes a cut while these top players are home, there's definitely a tricked-up, goofiness to this course as I've always said (been to several Masters at Augusta National).

 

Hank Haney agrees with your opinion. You can take any opinion in the world and find someone to agree with it. That alone doesn't change how valid your opinion is.

 

The qualifying criteria were posted above, and so was the criteria for the British Open. Please point out the differences, as that will display the differences in the strength of field. The Opens both allow a bunch of people to qualify - they just don't automatically exempt former winners… except when they do. :-P Post #106 just above.

 

The PGA actually has the strongest field. Or the Players Championship, you could argue.

 

Lucas Glover qualified. Kevin Na didn't.

 

And someone made a negative comment earlier on Blixt, who is now just one back of the leaders.  

 

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 When Lucas Glover makes a cut while these top players are home, there's definitely a tricked-up, goofiness to this course as I've always said (been to several Masters at Augusta National).

 

As far as tricked up goofiness (which I strongly disagree with), US Open rough, British Open quirky layouts with weird bounces and impossible bunkers, even the Player's with having to thread their way through a swamp - they could all be called tricked up.  That is part of what makes them Major tests of golf (or nearly so in the case of Sawgrass), and Augusta National is right there with the rest.  

 

If this is all the ammo you have lefty after your quirky logic has been exposed, well... enough said.


Edited by Fourputt - 4/12/14 at 7:21pm
post #111 of 120
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And someone made a negative comment earlier on Blixt, who is now just one back of the leaders.  

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Originally Posted by Rick Martin go_quote.gif

 
 When Lucas Glover makes a cut while these top players are home, there's definitely a tricked-up, goofiness to this course as I've always said (been to several Masters at Augusta National).



As far as tricked up goofiness (which I strongly disagree with), US Open rough, British Open quirky layouts with weird bounces and impossible bunkers, even the Player's with having to thread their way through a swamp - they could all be called tricked up.  That is part of what makes them Major tests of golf (or nearly so in the case of Sawgrass), and Augusta National is right there with the rest.  

If this is all the ammo you have lefty after your quirky logic has been exposed, well... enough said.
Seriously! Rick is the first person I've heard complain that the Masters is tricked up and has "funhouse" greens. The Nasters has always seemed to me to be the very fairest of them all. Hit it in the right spot and you get rewarded with birdie opportunities, even eagle opportunities on the par 5's

From where I sit, only #11 is a hole where you must just hold on for dear life and pray for a par.

But everything on this course is entirely predictable. Stay in position and score, but get out of position and watch out. ANGC is the epitome of fair.
post #112 of 120
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Originally Posted by Rick Martin View Post
 


Ernie is the same place that Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelsen, Luke Donald, Jason Dufner, Sergio, and Zach Johnson are - watching on TV with the rest of us.  Even Hank Haney agrees - said it today. This is the weakest field of the four majors and I agree with him.  When Lucas Glover makes a cut while these top players are home, there's definitely a tricked-up, goofiness to this course as I've always said (been to several Masters at Augusta National).

 

Yeah like Ernie, Johnson, Mickelson, Donald, Dufner, Garcia have never missed a cut in another major Gotta be the course :doh:

post #113 of 120
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Seriously! Rick is the first person I've heard complain that the Masters is tricked up and has "funhouse" greens. The Nasters has always seemed to me to be the very fairest of them all.

 

 

 

 

~~McCord still banned from the Masters

 

 

 

http://www.the20thhole.net/2011/04/mccord-still-banned-from-masters.html

post #114 of 120
Hey Ricky Martin, if you hate the Masters so much why are you cluttering all of our Masters threads with your jaded nonsense?
post #115 of 120
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Hey Ricky Martin, if you hate the Masters so much why are you cluttering all of our Masters threads with your jaded nonsense?
Been wondering this for about a week now.
post #116 of 120
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Hey Ricky Martin, if you hate the Masters so much why are you cluttering all of our Masters threads with your jaded nonsense?

 

 

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Been wondering this for about a week now.

Maybe he got banned from the "Competitive Bitching and Marathon Moaning" site and just has to make do with TST in the interim.

post #117 of 120
My favorite tournament, because of it's traditions! Would rather see Ben Crenshaw or Freddy getting ovations, rather than seeing Kevin Na shooting 76 and taking 6 hours to do it!
post #118 of 120

Good news for Rick Martin - Kevin Na is scheduled to play in the RBC, maybe he can work on qualifying for NEXT years Masters (or The Open Championship).

 

FWIW - I looked up Kevin Na's record at the majors - he has:

 

Masters - played in 4, missed the cut twice, best finish T12 2012

US Open - played in 3, missed the cut twice, best finish T29 2012

British - played in 3, missed the cut twice, best finish T27 2010

PGA - played in 4 (plus 1 WD), missed the cut once, best finish T10 2011

 

He is currently ranked #70 in the OWGR, with 1 career PGA win, 1 Asian tour win, 1 Web.com win - a nice ranking, but hardly someone who "deserves" an automatic bid.

post #119 of 120

I guess Rick Martin can now start complaining about Stewart Cink (2009 Open Champion) losing his invite to the Masters, as his time has run out on his Open Championship and he just finished outside the top 12 and will have to find another way to play himself back into the field. BTW, Cink is ranked 148 in the WGR do he's not getting in that way.

post #120 of 120
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Originally Posted by phan52 View Post
 

I guess Rick Martin can now start complaining about Stewart Cink (2009 Open Champion) losing his invite to the Masters, as his time has run out on his Open Championship and he just finished outside the top 12 and will have to find another way to play himself back into the field.

 

Yeah, it's now top 12. This was cut back recently: http://www.augusta.com/masters/players/qualifications .

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