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Donald Trump purchases Turnberry

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2046568-donald-trump-confirms-purchase-of-turnberry-resort-in-scotland?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-UK

 

Can't say this thrills me; interested for an opinion from those on the other side of the pond?

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Originally Posted by Wally Fairway View Post
 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2046568-donald-trump-confirms-purchase-of-turnberry-resort-in-scotland?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-UK

 

Can't say this thrills me; interested for an opinion from those on the other side of the pond?

 

I seem to be in a minority with respect to The Donald, though I can never figure out why.

 

The article says he's going to leave the course alone and is going to make improvements to the hotel.  He has the money and passion to do it right.

 

Trump, from the article:

 

"Some of the greatest championships in the history of golf have taken place at Turnberry. And the golf course itself is considered one of the greatest in the world. Some rate it as the best in the world. I'm not going to touch a thing unless the Royal and Ancient ask for it or approve it. I have the greatest respect for the R&A and for (R&A chief executive) Peter Dawson. I won't do anything to the golf course at all without their full stamp of approval."

 

What's not to like?

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You're not alone @David in FL. I'm not a "fan" of Donald Trump, but I like him more than I dislike him (when it comes to golf - I really have no other experience except his show, which I watched for awhile before it became all about quasi-celebrities).

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I agree @David in FL Trump has become a bit of a caricature of himself due to his public persona (The Apprentice, political commentary) but I like him and think he is a smart business person.  From a golf perspective, he's very outspoken about his passion for golf and he's investing a ton of money into the sport.  

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Not a fan at all of Donald Trump. Don't have a ton of knowledge about how he runs his courses, but I live <5 minutes from one of his courses, and I can't say it looks very good from the street. I wouldn't pay $50 to play there (not that I could). Hopefully he doesn't screw Turnberry up.

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Not a fan at all of Donald Trump. Don't have a ton of knowledge about how he runs his courses, but I live <5 minutes from one of his courses, and I can't say it looks very good from the street. I wouldn't pay $50 to play there (not that I could). Hopefully he doesn't screw Turnberry up.

I'm genuinely curious. Why, if you don't know much about him, or "how he runs his courses", do you dislike him?

Surely not because you don't care for how one of his courses "looks from the street".....
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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post


I'm genuinely curious. Why, if you don't know much about him, or "how he runs his courses", do you dislike him?

Surely not because you don't care for how one of his courses "looks from the street".....

 

Mostly because he's a babbling buffoon. Who, by the way, was given the business. Hardly the self-made billionaire people like to make him out to be.

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Originally Posted by hilmar2k View Post

Mostly because he's a babbling buffoon. 
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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post


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Huh...... b3_huh.gif

 

He's a Sterling apologist, birther, racist scumbag.

 

But hey, that's just my opinion.

 

EDIT: Who also said if she wasn't his daughter, he'd probably date her. Nice....

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He's a Sterling apologist, birther, racist scumbag.

 

But hey, that's just my opinion.

You must be reading a different newspaper here are Trump's quotes on Sterling and the situation;

 

Donald Trump echoed the sentiments of outrage expressed by many in response to racist remarks allegedly made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, but adding that the woman who recorded the conversation is “the girlfriend from hell.”  

 

Speaking with Fox News on Monday, Trump called Sterling's comments “despicable,” referencing the 15-minute conversation with then-girlfriend V. Stiviano in which the Clippers owner made several disparaging comments toward African-Americans. However, Trump added that while Sterling's comments deserved punishment, he said the Clippers owner was set-up by his “very bad girlfriend.” “He got set up by a very, very bad girlfriend, let's face it,” Trump told “Fox & Friends” of Clippers owner Donald Sterling.

 

“She's called the girlfriend from hell, but what he said was terrible and despicable and very strong action is going to be taken. There's no question about it,” Trump said of Sterling's girlfriend. “She's a terrible human being and he gave horrible answers and disgusting answers.” Trump also called into question the mental state of Sterling, saying that he “seems close to incompetent.” “I think he could be out of it, frankly, based on his actions,” Trump said. “He could be pretty much out of it in terms of his whole mentality.”

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You must be reading a different newspaper here are Trump's quotes on Sterling and the situation;

 

Donald Trump echoed the sentiments of outrage expressed by many in response to racist remarks allegedly made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, but adding that the woman who recorded the conversation is “the girlfriend from hell.”  

 

Speaking with Fox News on Monday, Trump called Sterling's comments “despicable,” referencing the 15-minute conversation with then-girlfriend V. Stiviano in which the Clippers owner made several disparaging comments toward African-Americans. However, Trump added that while Sterling's comments deserved punishment, he said the Clippers owner was set-up by his “very bad girlfriend.” “He got set up by a very, very bad girlfriend, let's face it,” Trump told “Fox & Friends” of Clippers owner Donald Sterling.

 

“She's called the girlfriend from hell, but what he said was terrible and despicable and very strong action is going to be taken. There's no question about it,” Trump said of Sterling's girlfriend. “She's a terrible human being and he gave horrible answers and disgusting answers.” Trump also called into question the mental state of Sterling, saying that he “seems close to incompetent.” “I think he could be out of it, frankly, based on his actions,” Trump said. “He could be pretty much out of it in terms of his whole mentality.”

 

The fact that he came out and said Sterling was "set up" speaks volumes. 

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The fact that he came out and said Sterling was "set up" speaks volumes. 

 

Oh brother. Bullshit. He was set up. His girlfriend recorded what he thought was a private conversation. That's a statement of fact, is it not?

 

You were wrong with what you said above. You called him a Sterling apologist.

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Oh brother. Bullshit. He was set up. His girlfriend recorded what he thought was a private conversation. That's a statement of fact, is it not?

 

You were wrong with what you said above. You called him a Sterling apologist.

Actually, you are incorrect. Sterling knew he was being recorded. 

 

I still contend that he is a Sterling apologist.

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Actually, you are incorrect. Sterling knew he was being recorded. 

 

I still contend that he is a Sterling apologists.

 

First, I didn't say he didn't know. I said it was a private conversation. Second, you've yet to share any evidence that makes such a contention valid. Third, we have a Sterling thread. This isn't it. You can dislike Donald Trump all you want, but we are just as free to realize that your reasons for disliking him are… without foundation.

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You've yet to share any evidence that makes such a contention valid.

 

We have a Sterling thread. This isn't it. You can dislike Donald Trump all you want, but we are just as free to realize that your reasons for disliking him are… lousy.

 

Hey, I stated my opinion on Trump was just that, an opinion. You made this thread about my opinion, not me. But, since we're on the topic of what Sterling did and didn't know.....

 

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10857580/donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers-owner-receives-life-ban-nba

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Hey, I stated my opinion on Trump was just that, an opinion. You made this thread about my opinion, not me. But, since we're on the topic of what Sterling did and didn't know.....

 

We are NOT on the topic, and to repeat myself again I never said he didn't KNOW.

 

Back to the topic.

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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post


I'm genuinely curious. Why, if you don't know much about him, or "how he runs his courses", do you dislike him?

Surely not because you don't care for how one of his courses "looks from the street".....

 

I said I didn't know much about how he runs his courses. My income doesn't afford me the privileged of playing his courses. However, as I said, the course near me is not a nice looking course. You can see enough of it to know it's not well maintained. I do have a buddy who's played it a bunch of times (and even run into Trump there, who apparently was kind of an ass), so I'll check in with him to see if that holds true for the rest of the course as well.

 

EDIT: Let me add that I don't mean it's in bad shape, just not what I would expect from a Trump course. It looks like a nicely maintained muni course. It should certainly be much nicer than that. My prior descriptions may have come across as too harsh when describing it. That doesn't at all change my opinion of the owner, though.

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Well, this thread went sideways pretty fast (you'd think we were discussing who is better Jack or Tiger).

 

Anyway, my concern about Trump is that he likes high profile deals and they seem to be more about him and his getting publicity; and how he owns one of the jewels of the golfing world. 

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