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Problem, my golf club slides in my hand during the downswing!!!

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Often times when I make a bad shot. I can feel that the club is sliding inside my hands (I feel the club sliding, inside my golfing gloves, I wear two gloves to prevent blisters btw)

 

I have been playing with overlap grip, thusfar, though (the vardon grip)

 

My handsize is  men's small. At least it says so in my footjoy golfing glove, which fits ok.

 

The club sliding happens during the downswing, at some part of it. :cry:

 

This causes the clubface to open itself, during the downswing, which is rather unwanted.

 

Club sliding causes for me, an open clubface at impact. Sometimes the club slides even a little bit, during the followthrough!!!

 

All of these experiences lead me to believe that I've played with incorrect grip, thusfar.

 

I had some wrist pain in my left hand, after leaving the range today, also...

 

I realized this after watching a grip guide video embedded at sandtrap forums.

 

In all my pro lessons, I never had a pro actually teach me the correct grip (presumably I thought there was never anything wrong with it)

post #2 of 20
When was the last time your clubs were regripped?
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post

When was the last time your clubs were regripped?

A month ago. Very new grips. But my dad did it, without me being there at the store... I told my dad that my own handsize was like, men's small, so I don't know....:-O

post #4 of 20
Not to be disrespectful but how old are you? I ask because my answer might change depending on your age.

Regardless of your age, get instruction in the correct grip, and practice placing your hands on the club until it is second nature. (It may not feel "natural" at first) This is one thing that everyone can do correctly and consistently, and is the foundation for everything that follows.

Be sure your grips and glove are the correct size for your hands and strength. The glove should be like a second skin. (I don't use one), and the tips of your left fingers (assuming you are right handed) should just touch the pad of your thumb/palm when placed correctly on the grip.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbuck View Post

Not to be disrespectful but how old are you? I ask because my answer might change depending on your age.

Regardless of your age, get instruction in the correct grip, and practice placing your hands on the club until it is second nature. (It may not feel "natural" at first) This is one thing that everyone can do correctly and consistently, and is the foundation for everything that follows.

Be sure your grips and glove are the correct size for your hands and strength. The glove should be like a second skin. (I don't use one), and the tips of your left fingers (assuming you are right handed) should just touch the pad of your thumb/palm when placed correctly on the grip.
Why would my age affect your answer towards me? Could you just give advice please, since you made the decision to answer in my thread. I didn't make this thread just to gather insults from the Internet towards me. My age is 23 years.
 
My fingers don't quite reach around the golf grip that far. I'm pretty sure that my fingertips don't quite touch the base of the thumb.
 
I don't have my golf clubs in my hand though, at the moment so I suppose I could try this later, how far my fingertips reach around the golf grip.
 
My golf glove size is men's small, because extra small, is too small for me to fit my hand into. Men's medium glove has too long fingers.

 

I thought about my grip problem a little bit more.

 

I think I've located the problem - it's in my right hand, in the vardon grip. So, I'm regular righty golfer.

My left hand takes good neutral grip position, in the golf club.

 

My right hand though, the grip position maybe too strong, there in my right hand.

post #6 of 20

you may be playing the wrong size grip. and also the overlapping grip may be the wrong style for your hand size try the interlocking grip. its  the style i use, i also wear a small glove and play an undersize grip double tape. 

post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by dbuck View Post

Not to be disrespectful but how old are you? I ask because my answer might change depending on your age.

 

 

I think the OP was NOT being disrespectful--if you were an older golfer like me, arthritis could easily have a lot to do with the club moving in your hands.

You might also try a 1/2 corded grip like the New Decade Multi-compound ones (or similar).  I have installed and like the Black Widow Widow Maker grips with 3 wraps of tape under and really like the solidity when gripping.

post #8 of 20

@late347 ,

 

Could you take a picture of your hands holding the club? @iacas and @mvmac have posted photos that show how much overlap your fingers should have.

post #9 of 20

I had a spell a couple of years ago where the club would slip up into the V of my right hand at or just after the transition when I was really swinging hard.

 

My grip wasn't necessarily causing it but the position of my hand at the top of the backswing in relation to the direction of swing path was just forcing it to slip up into the V. It wasn't happening every time and I was actually hitting the ball pretty well at the time (when it didn't slip).

 

Once I figured out the cause, the "fix" was easy and it hasn't happened since then. I've made changes in my grip a couple of times since then (for other reasons) without that problem ever showing a sign of coming back.

post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by late347 View Post

Why would my age affect your answer towards me? Could you just give advice please, since you made the decision to answer in my thread. I didn't make this thread just to gather insults from the Internet towards me. My age is 23 years.
 
My fingers don't quite reach around the golf grip that far. I'm pretty sure that my fingertips don't quite touch the base of the thumb.
 
I don't have my golf clubs in my hand though, at the moment so I suppose I could try this later, how far my fingertips reach around the golf grip.
 
My golf glove size is men's small, because extra small, is too small for me to fit my hand into. Men's medium glove has too long fingers.

 

I thought about my grip problem a little bit more.

 

I think I've located the problem - it's in my right hand, in the vardon grip. So, I'm regular righty golfer.

My left hand takes good neutral grip position, in the golf club.

 

My right hand though, the grip position maybe too strong, there in my right hand.

 



As I said, I meant no disrespect, but their are a couple of suggestions that would be age specific.

If you are a younger person, say 20 or younger, I would suggest you try a size smaller in the grip size. Your left fingertips should just touch the thumb base pad and palm as they wrap around. This is approximate.

I would also suggest that you do moderate strengthening exercises to increase the strength of your grip with less effort. Exercises that strengthen the muscles in your hands and forearms. You are not trying to create a crushing grip, but the stronger your hands and forearms are relatively speaking --to a point--the easier it is to hang on to the club. I might be able to do a one-hand 30 pound curl for instance, but if you are stronger than me, you could do the same curl with less effort and tension in your muscles than me. So stronger hands hold the club easier with less tension. Less tension is usually good.

Also if you are young, I might suggest ditching the glove. Not many will suggest this, and if it is not for you, don't do it. I would not suggest this to an older person who has used a glove all their life.

Older people might not be able to use these suggestions as well--my muscles will not respond to exercise as well as a younger person's would. Also, some loss of grip results from various things that sometimes come with age, and for those folks, a bigger grip is sometimes the solution because they can't close their fingers around the smaller one.

Again, I meant no disrespect, but their are tactics that work for younger that don't work for older and vis a vis.
post #11 of 20

You can also try a bigger grip so your hands can hold it comfortably. Do a google search for "oversize golf grip for small hands".

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post
 

You can also try a bigger grip so your hands can hold it comfortably. Do a google search for "oversize golf grip for small hands".

In my left hand I can reach around the golf grip, and touch my thumb pad with my middle finger, and ringfinger. Grips are standard size I believe, since there are no markings to note anything else.The grips are golf pride velvet tour.

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by late347 View Post

In my left hand I can reach around the golf grip, and touch my thumb pad with my middle finger, and ringfinger. Grips are standard size I believe, since there are no markings to note anything else.The grips are golf pride velvet tour.

So, it sounds like mid grips would be better.

I stated small only because your post indicated a "small men's glove", but your grips would be too small if you can dig your fingernail into your thumbpad.
post #14 of 20
I'm assuming that when you say: "I wear two gloves...", that you mean one on each hand and not TWO gloves on the left hand. That would be awkward.

There's the old saying that you should "hold the club like you're shaking a ladies hand..." Bollocks.... Hold it as tight as is COMFORTABLE and can maintain control. Tour pros who slash at a 110-120 mph clubhead speed would be killing spectators if they held on as if "they were shaking a ladies hand". It would be helicoptering clubs all over the place.

Don't strangle it, either- that wont help. You have to find that sweet spot between a ladies hand and an enemies neck. If your finger strength needs some help, try using one of those stress squeezy ball things.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post


So, it sounds like mid grips would be better.

I stated small only because your post indicated a "small men's glove", but your grips would be too small if you can dig your fingernail into your thumbpad.

Well, I have very short fingernails, but yeah I get your point.

 

The fingertips of the middlefinger and ringfinger touch "semi-solidly" into the thumbpad.

 

So, it's more touching fingertips - compared to simply "barely touching fingertips"

 

At least if my grip is supposedly half-way decent...

 

-The two Vs formed by thumb and forefinger, should point to the right ear, or right shoulder.

 

-AND supposedly, thumbs should always stay near the forefingers, so that the thumbs are not sailing on their own, on the grip surface, correct?

post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by late347 View Post
 

Well, I have very short fingernails, but yeah I get your point.

 

The fingertips of the middlefinger and ringfinger touch "semi-solidly" into the thumbpad.

 

So, it's more touching fingertips - compared to simply "barely touching fingertips"

 

At least if my grip is supposedly half-way decent...

 

-The two Vs formed by thumb and forefinger, should point to the right ear, or right shoulder.

 

-AND supposedly, thumbs should always stay near the forefingers, so that the thumbs are not sailing on their own, on the grip surface, correct?

 

 

My hands do the same. I have standard Golf Pride Decade grips, with 2 wraps of tape. Now a few months back, I had some mid sized grips installed on my driver, and 3 wood, they felt great, but I just didn't have a good feeling swinging  those clubs, I switched back the standard size, as stated above. Now, what I found out was, that I thought I had a good grip..NOT! was just a tad palmy, so now I have the grip more in my fingers, and  I grip my clubs a bit tighter than before, as I use to wear out the thumb pad and middle finger of my glove. Since I changed my grip, and after about 11500 range balls hit, my glove still looks pretty good, my old grip would have had holes in it by now. So maybe look at the tension, and how you grip your clubs. just some food for thought.

post #17 of 20

I have pretty small hands myself, so I had my clubs regripped with undersize grips to help - but also switching to an interlocking grip has definitely reduced the amount of 'slip' I used to feel. I used to use a 10-finger grip, vardon just doesn't feel right.

 

With the interlocking grip, it's almost like I don't have to grip as hard - the fact that my hands are less likely to move away from each other allows the fatter butt of the grip to get stuck so it can't slide away. I also grip more with the pinky and ring finger of my left hand than anything else.

post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 
I have another question qbout grip.

They say hold the club more in the fingers as opposed to palm.

This still means that i have to enclose the hand around the grip of the club fully am i right?

So i enclose my thumbpad and thumb around the grip. (Apply slight pressure on the grip with thumbpad)

So you enclose the thumbpad on the grip. BUT you also keep thumb near the forefingers for coherent package...

I.e. you enclose the hand including the thumbpad around the grip of the club?

I ask because advice is always to "hold the club in the fingers" no mention of what the thumb does around the other side of the fingers...
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