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post #217 of 336
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Originally Posted by Chilli Dipper View Post


This came up with Carl Pettersson a few years ago. He had earned enough world ranking points to be in contention for a spot on the European team, but he didn't hold active European Tour membership, which rendered him ineligible.

 

I looked it up and you're completely right.

post #218 of 336
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Originally Posted by skydog View Post
 

Captain's picks are Keegan, Webb, and Sneds. Would be reasonably shocked if it's not these three guys.


Tiger over Webb.  Webb brings nothing to the table.  Watson even hinted at taking Tiger during the PGA, effectively saying "He's a little hurt and not playing well, but in the end, he IS Tiger Woods." 

post #219 of 336

In 2012 Tiger lost all his macthes in the Ryder Cup. And back then it seems he was in better form and shape then he is now.

post #220 of 336
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Originally Posted by chriskzoo View Post
 


Tiger over Webb.  Webb brings nothing to the table.  Watson even hinted at taking Tiger during the PGA, effectively saying "He's a little hurt and not playing well, but in the end, he IS Tiger Woods." 


take out Webb and replace with Ryan Palmer, he's on a hot-streak :beer:

post #221 of 336
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Originally Posted by chriskzoo View Post


Tiger over Webb.  Webb brings nothing to the table.  Watson even hinted at taking Tiger during the PGA, effectively saying "He's a little hurt and not playing well, but in the end, he IS Tiger Woods." 

Before Bridgestone, I would have agreed, but not anymore. He role on the team would have been as the aggressive partner during the four-ball sessions, and he just can't go after the shot without risking injury to his back. He can't promise being fit to complete three sessions, let alone all five, so he's out.
post #222 of 336
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Originally Posted by Silent View Post
 

In 2012 Tiger lost all his macthes in the Ryder Cup. And back then it seems he was in better form and shape then he is now.


He was also paired with Stricker, who contributed absolutely nothing that year and was largely to blame - he did halve his singles match, which was irrelevant by the time they finished.

 

I would not expect Tiger to play 4 or even 5 matches.  I would play him in Friday and Saturday Four Ball only where he has a partner to help carry him if he struggles.  I think he'd pair well with Spieth.

post #223 of 336
I'm not sure Tiger even wants to play at this point. His presser on Fri seemed to hint that he's hanging up the clubs for some time to focus on his health, getting stronger, etc. I believe that was a message to Tom and others. Don't think he'll be there.
post #224 of 336
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Originally Posted by chriskzoo View Post
 


Tiger over Webb.  Webb brings nothing to the table.  Watson even hinted at taking Tiger during the PGA, effectively saying "He's a little hurt and not playing well, but in the end, he IS Tiger Woods." 

I would lose some respect for Watson, as the Ryder Cup captain, if he were to pick Tiger.

Nobody forced Tom to make all the comments about Tiger being healthy and seeing how he was playing to earn a spot.

It would make me wonder how much pressure there was from higher powers as in TV rights (aka NBC) to put Tiger on the team.

post #225 of 336
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Originally Posted by Gunther View Post

I'm not sure Tiger even wants to play at this point. His presser on Fri seemed to hint that he's hanging up the clubs for some time to focus on his health, getting stronger, etc. I believe that was a message to Tom and others. Don't think he'll be there.


I think ultimately, Tiger will do Watson a favor and say he's not healthy enough to play and take himself out of consideration. 

post #226 of 336
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Originally Posted by chriskzoo View Post
 

I would play him in Friday and Saturday Four Ball only where he has a partner to help carry him if he struggles.  

 

You can't possibly select a player based on the understanding that its the job of his partner to carry him!!! It's not fair on a rookie like Jordan to ask him to take two Europeans single handedly on their home patch. If you're even remotely thinking in terms of how you can best hide Tiger Woods then the answer is straight forward. 4000 miles away.

 

Hell I'd rather pick Tom Watson to play foursomes ahead of Woods to play fourballs under these circumstances

 

Woods has never been a factor in Ryder Cup before, and hasn't been part of a winning team this century. What on earth have you seen in his form that marks him out as turning that round this year that no one else has? 

 

If you insist on playing him (and God only knows why?) then you'd be better off asking him to play the singles only, or perhaps getting injured on Saturday night and at least reducing the final day to eleven aside

post #227 of 336

If the Captain's picks were today, I think Keegan and Snedeker would be 2 of the choices, and unless they play absolutely horrible these last few weeks, they should stay as the top 2 options.

 

 The last one is going to go to the hottest hand, and if nobody is hot, then I think Tiger becomes a possibility.

post #228 of 336
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Originally Posted by ChrisP View Post

If the Captain's picks were today, I think Keegan and Snedeker would be 2 of the choices, and unless they play absolutely horrible these last few weeks, they should stay as the top 2 options.

 The last one is going to go to the hottest hand, and if nobody is hot, then I think Tiger becomes a possibility.
I think Tom would have to be batshit ****ing insane to take Tiger. I would rather have Brian Harman on the team. I think Moore, Simpson, or Mahan are better options.
post #229 of 336

I don't see how he becomes a possibility Chris, when there's nothing tangible to pin the decision on. The best you're going to get is Tiger's own reports of his fitness. Just what is his record since he came back from the operation. It's not even remotely close to being good enough to compete at this level of intensity

 

Dan Marino doubtless has a better career record than Ryan Tannehill, but Miami don't pick him?

 

I was just looking at the possible line up Europe could field on that first morning

 

 

Rory McIlroy/ Sergio Garcia

Justin Rose/ Ian Poulter

Lee Westwood/ Graeme McDowell

Martin Kaymer/ Henrik Stenson

 

That could be 4-0 and game over. You can't be thinking in terms of carrying walking wounded. America has to come straight out the gates from the moment they open

post #230 of 336
I'd love to see Erik Compton get a shot, far-fetched, I know. Not sure he could play 4 or 5 matches given his health issues but the cooler weather there might allow it. Would like to see him go on a tear over the next few weeks and get himself into contention.
post #231 of 336

Tiger being on the Ryder Cup team would be akin to Derek Jeter starting this year's all-star game

post #232 of 336
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Originally Posted by FarawayFairways View Post
 

I don't see how he becomes a possibility Chris, when there's nothing tangible to pin the decision on. The best you're going to get is Tiger's own reports of his fitness. Just what is his record since he came back from the operation. It's not even remotely close to being good enough to compete at this level of intensity

 

Dan Marino doubtless has a better career record than Ryan Tannehill, but Miami don't pick him?

 

I was just looking at the possible line up Europe could field on that first morning

 

 

Rory McIlroy/ Sergio Garcia

Justin Rose/ Ian Poulter

Lee Westwood/ Graeme McDowell

Martin Kaymer/ Henrik Stenson

 

That could be 4-0 and game over. You can't be thinking in terms of carrying walking wounded. America has to come straight out the gates from the moment they open

 

Not saying it's likely. Just saying it becomes a possibility if no one else stands out.

 

Btw, as well as Mickelson/Bradley played 2 years ago, I think Mickelson/Fowler would be a strong team that can give any Euro team a tough outing. I also think Walker could be a sneaky good team player. Pair him with Zach Johnson and that'd be another tough team to contend with.

post #233 of 336

'possibility' is such a catch all word though Chris, and will always apply. I'm just trying to reverse engineer the selection process and can't really conceive of a situation where the possibility exists though. Make a list out in your own mind of the conditions that you would require Tiger to satisfy, and then ask where you're going to see the evidence that makes you comfortable that he's met them? I can see that your point was largely based on a negative pick, that is to say it's akin to there being nothing else left, and he's in by default, but Gleneagles has a couple of key holes 14 & 16 which are risk and reward big hitting assignments. The way Tiger is at the moment I wouldn't let him anywhere near them. I'd be more persuaded by those of you advocating letting JB Holmes have a go at them to be honest

 

Funny you should say that Fowler and Phil would make a partnership. I was thinking who on the American side I'd swap for a European player. Those were the only two names I came up with

 

I'd have Rickey for Donaldson and Phil for Bjorn

 

Anyway, here's the PGA course guide. It closes this week for prep incidentally

 

http://www.gleneagles.com/golf/golf-courses/pga-centenary-course/virtual-course-guide

post #234 of 336
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Originally Posted by FarawayFairways View Post

'possibility' is such a catch all word though Chris, and will always apply. I'm just trying to reverse engineer the selection process and can't really conceive of a situation where the possibility exists though. Make a list out in your own mind of the conditions that you would require Tiger to satisfy, and then ask where you're going to see the evidence that makes you comfortable that he's met them? I can see that your point was largely based on a negative pick, that is to say it's akin to there being nothing else left, and he's in by default, but Gleneagles has a couple of key holes 14 & 16 which are risk and reward big hitting assignments. The way Tiger is at the moment I wouldn't let him anywhere near them. I'd be more persuaded by those of you advocating letting JB Holmes have a go at them to be honest

Funny you should say that Fowler and Phil would make a partnership. I was thinking who on the American side I'd swap for a European player. Those were the only two names I came up with

I'd have Rickey for Donaldson and Phil for Bjorn

Anyway, here's the PGA course guide. It closes this week for prep incidentally

http://www.gleneagles.com/golf/golf-courses/pga-centenary-course/virtual-course-guide
How bout ol' Jim as one of the Euro Captains picks?!
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