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My Swing (Garradmiller)

post #1 of 23
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I've been Playing Golf for:​  few years off and on
My current handicap index or average score is: 20 if I had to guess
My typical ball flight is:. High, if I miss its to the right
The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: hook

Data at the bottom is from an es12 and is set to record carry distance not total.

Callaway diablo tour 9.5

Any tips would be appreciated. Trying to get more in to golf now and really start playing a lot as opposed to a few times a year which I have always done.

Check out this video on YouTube:
post #2 of 23

Hi welcome to the site. Looks to me like you get a little "armsy" going back with not much of a pivot. This causes you to lift the arms at the top of the backswing. Then the arms shift out and to try and swing out you keep the weight back.

 

So this is what I suggest you do. To make the change more effective, hit balls with a tee in your left armpit and keep it from falling out throughout the entire swing.

 

 

post #3 of 23
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Thank you. I'll try that out today.
post #4 of 23
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Anyone else?
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by Garradmiller View Post

Anyone else?

 

Listen to @mvmac. He knows what he's talking about. :-)

post #6 of 23
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Listen to @mvmac. He knows what he's talking about. :-)

 

Haha.  Yeah.  If @mvmac gives advice you can pretty much just work with that for the time being!

post #7 of 23
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Okay being new i didn't know lol. Been trying it feels a little weird but definitely changin things.
post #8 of 23
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Using the tee it feels like I can't get a full backswing. Am I going too far back in the video so that not going as far is okay?
post #9 of 23
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Using the tee it feels like I can't get a full backswing. Am I going too far back in the video so that not going as far is okay?

 

Wouldn't be the worst thing to shorten it up. The tee really helps sequence the pivot with the arms. It will certainly feel shorter but I'm sure you're still make a "full" backswing. You just have to use the pivot to "carry" the arms rather than getting "armsy".

post #10 of 23
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Maybe it's just a combinations of my arms and wrists etc but the club head does not travel as far back while using the tee is what I mean.
post #11 of 23
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Maybe it's just a combinations of my arms and wrists etc but the club head does not travel as far back while using the tee is what I mean.

 

Yep that's fine. Here's a couple pro's top of the backswing position with a driver.

 

post #12 of 23
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Ok good to know. In mine from that angle on the left the club head gets down to my head level.

Thanks a lot
post #13 of 23

Looks to me like you have a massive over swing, yeah.  Whenever I do that it seems to result in bad things but I think some players can pull it off.  You do another thing that I see a ton of people do that looks bad to me but I've never asked if it's actually bad... and that's having your right hand cupped way under the club.  It seems like it would encourage one to scoop at the ball or something but I don't really know.

post #14 of 23
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I pull it off somewhat. It's a hard choice every time i swing around people who know what they're talking about they seem conflicted on what to tell me to do. Everyone agrees that my swing is a long ways from perfect or normal. but when I drive it 300+ and straight they say hmm maybe you shouldn't change it. I think with enough work though I can swing right and still have power.
post #15 of 23
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I think with enough work though I can swing right and still have power.

 

Agree, you can still make a "short" backswing and hit it 300. Taking it that far back doesn't really add anything.

post #16 of 23
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Been working on it. Here is today.
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Garradmiller View Post

Been working on it. Here is today.
 

 

So even though things may have been feeling shorter, I wouldn't say the backswing has shorten that much, still past parallel for a sand wedge.

 

Here's what I recommend 

 

- Weaken the left and right hand grip.

- Turn both feet out

- Turn the hips/torso more earlier. To do this you're going to feel the shoulders/hips work more like a teeter totter. Left goes down right goes up.

 

Note the amount the left shoulder shoulder is traveling down compared to yours.

 

Will allow you to turn the torso more but have a shorter arm swing. Right now your torso doesn't turn enough and the arm swing is too long.

post #18 of 23

I have different causal issues in my swing than you, but I share a result, the over swing.  Mike can speak up if he thinks this is a bad approach, but one thing I've found really helps in not over swinging is to set the wrists earlier.  If feels like WAY earlier, though in video it's just earlier.  The issue for me, that I see for you too, is that we get to what could be a reasonable position at the top, and then after everything else has stopped moving, the left elbow bends more and the wrists cock more.  Notice in the second pic from Mike above that if your left arm was a tad straighter and your wrists had maintained the position they were in 2 frames earlier, you wouldn't have rolled them over and wrapped them around your head.  Your forearms wouldn't have rotated so much and the club would not have gotten to, much less past, parallel with the ground.  That'd be a much better place to implement further changes to the swing.

 

I've found that if I think about getting my left wrist to its final position relative to the left arm at A3 (left arm parallel to the ground on the back swing), then I can more consistently just finish the turn with the body and arms, and when they get to a good position at the top my wrists have already finished cocking, so they don't drift even further back and get out of sequence and position.  A good example is from a player with one of my favorite swings, Adam Scott.  He's the world number one and all, so he doesn't have to set his wrists super early to accomplish this, but notice that his left wrists gets into its final relationship with his left arm around A3.5 (between A3 and the top of the back swing, A4).  The very end of his back swing is his arms and upper torso moving into their final position without his wrists continuing to cock.

 

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