Originally Posted by saevel25
Well in Dayton there isn't much discretion because they are set for 12 mph over the speed limit in an urban setting. So, tell me why a cop shouldn't be pulling you over going +10 mph over the speed limit? I don't see that argument really. Oh well the cop wasn't there, so what?
Honestly speed limit and red light cameras are more fair in terms of enforcing the traffic laws because it takes out human error and human bias. What is fair about a cop having a bad day and pulling people over for doing 2 over the speed limit, then the next day pulling people over if they only go 12 over the speed limit? Should we be penalized due to how a cop feels about giving out tickets that day.
Of course tickets are a revenue generator. I was driving around Ohio over Memorial Day weekend, I saw upwards of 20 State Highway patrol man driving to Canton and back down to Dayton. They knew that traffic was up and more people would speed. Does it bother you they generate revenue? You are breaking the law when you speed, own up to the ticket. The penalty is a monetary fee. Hence revenue generating. Revenue is kinda side effect of giving out tickets. I love how people say, "Oh its a cash grab". All I say is, "DUH!! YOUR SPEEDING!!!" Heck if I could make money off of people speeding I would.
Because with the sole purpose being revenue generation, there's little to no oversight. What if the device malfunctions or is set intentionally to ticket motorists going over 5mph? I was under the impression we were still innocent until proven guilty and you had the right to face your accuser in court. The local governments gets away with it by just fining the vehicle owner and not assigning points to the driver since they have no way to validate who was driving.
I'm not sure how it's gone in Ohio, but here in NY there are issues with red light cameras giving tickets to vehicles that it shouldn't have. It's also all but undone the right on red law as there's uncertainty how long you have to wait before turning so now no one turns on right where these camera's are positioned.
I often hear your slippery slope argument if you're not doing anything illegal you have no reason to be concerned. I guess we should all welcome government cameras in our homes and businesses so the government can monitor everything we do to generate more revenue since only the guilty have anything to worry about.
Speed camera's, immigration check points, invasive x-ray searches at airports, and who knows what else, leads me to think we better remove the words "O'er the land of the free" out of the Star Spangled Banner.